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9 months ago ::
Sep 30, 2012 - 9:14PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 12, 2006
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So, my gaming group has been playtesting for a few sessions now, and people in our group want to buy horses (and in the halfling's case, a dog). I can't find stats for animals or mounts anywhere. What solutions have other people been using?
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9 months ago ::
Sep 30, 2012 - 9:21PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 26, 2004
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Tied a bunch of kobolds to a sled.
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9 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 12:07AM
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Jun 10, 2012
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Simple either write down whatever numbers make sense to you, as you dont need Hitdice or level modifications or the like.
Or, do not get yoru characters mounts involved in combat. Or if you do make it more of a story thing. Let a goblin arrow lame your players horse because you say so at an appropriate point in the story. Narration is something numbers and stats always interfear with.
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9 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 5:25AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 20, 2011
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As for basic animals, I just make a level 1 PC and rip out all the stats that make no sense.
For trained animals (attack dogs, which I use when running solo games for a friend to help him) I run a rogue PC build with no skills and increased d8 hit die.
I find a good measure to follow is give mounts d6 hit die per level, they remain squishy enough that you want to protect them and with low AC they wont become something to hide behind for cover for mages.
But as others have said, make it come down to what you want it to play like. Everyone has different images of the animals in relation to their PCs. You can compare PCs to orcs, goblins and trolls easily without causing upset on the forum but if you compare a persons PC to a real life counterpart theres often confusion, anger and stupidity aroused in players that leads to an argument I have found.
I myself am quite interested in putting normal animals in the game but thats 90% because I just bought Tokyo Jungle yesterday.
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9 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 8:34AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 15, 2006
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About animal stats:
If some animal can be wizard´s familiar.. the information about it (like skill bonus) should be together. For example if monkey can be familiar... it should be in the monster manual, no a Dragon Magazine article.
Animals that can be mounts or be used to draw carts (for example a elephant, moose, reindeer or sleg dogs).. the stats about limit of weight should be gived.
"Say me what you're showing off for, and I'll say you what you lack!" (Spanish saying)
Book 13 Anaclet 23
Confucius said: "The Superior Man is in harmony but does not follow the crowd. The inferior man follows the crowd, but is not in harmony"
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9 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 3:56PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 13, 2004
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As Spot is stupidly a Wisdom skill, most animals will be very wise, as usual…
"They are making it clear that when modern design and common sense come into conflict with tradition, tradition wins." - thecasualoblivion
"Vancian isn't broken, you just have to set your game to the wizard's clock!" - Oxybe
"In many ways, making a new edition of D&D is alot like trying to sell a car to the Amish." - Dwarfslayer
"Encounters are the heart of the AD&D game" - PHB AD&D 2nd edition.
"you shouldn't even bother trying to become like me." - Gary Gygax (Elfcrusher confirmed)
"Feel free to claim I said anything you like. How's someone going to call you out on it? Are they going to be all like, 'I know all of the things that Gary said, and that's not one of them?'"
- Gary Gygax
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9 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 8:33PM
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I hope they have animal stats in next. Makes things easier.
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9 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 10:48PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 26, 2004
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Why would animals have high spot checks most mammals have worse vision than humans, in fact the only creatures I know for sure that trump humans in the vision department are birds, and even then we do some things better.
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9 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 11:53PM
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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I would just reskin a Human Comoner as a large beast with an increased speed and swap the Mob Trait for Keen Sense. Something like this: (Or bump any numbers judged too low)Riding Horse
Large Beast
Armor Class 10
Hit Points 4 (1d8)
Speed 60 ft.
Str 10 (+0) Dex 10 (+0) Con 10 (+0)
Int 10 (+0) Wis 10 (+0) Cha 10 (+0)
Alignment Neutral
Languages —
ACTIONS
Melee Attack—Hoof: +0 to hit (reach 5 ft.;
one creature). Hit: 1d4 bludgeoning damage.
Keen Senses: The horse has a +5 bonus to checks
to detect hidden creatures. The minimum of its roll
on such checks is 10.
ENCOUNTER BUILDING
Level 1 XP 50
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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9 months ago ::
Oct 02, 2012 - 5:49AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 13, 2004
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Why would animals have high spot checks most mammals have worse vision than humans, in fact the only creatures I know for sure that trump humans in the vision department are birds, and even then we do some things better.
It's true, but I was more refering to the non-sense of animals having high Wisdom scores.
"They are making it clear that when modern design and common sense come into conflict with tradition, tradition wins." - thecasualoblivion
"Vancian isn't broken, you just have to set your game to the wizard's clock!" - Oxybe
"In many ways, making a new edition of D&D is alot like trying to sell a car to the Amish." - Dwarfslayer
"Encounters are the heart of the AD&D game" - PHB AD&D 2nd edition.
"you shouldn't even bother trying to become like me." - Gary Gygax (Elfcrusher confirmed)
"Feel free to claim I said anything you like. How's someone going to call you out on it? Are they going to be all like, 'I know all of the things that Gary said, and that's not one of them?'"
- Gary Gygax
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