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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 7:37PM
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I'm sorry, but when they get your order wrong at the restaurant you are paying big money to eat at, you don't politely tell them for the 12th time that you wanted your steak rare, you get up shout at the manager and walk out. At that point you are not acting like a child, you are acting like an adult that has been repeatedly wronged while paying for it.
It also doesn't matter who started it or why. If the developers don't come talk on the forums 200 posters are not going to suddenly decide to be super polite and act nice without some kind of actual incentive like the developers coming to speak on the forums...
No, actually I don't get up and shout at the manager. You know why? Because I'm not 12 years old. I'm an adult. While I may well certainly have some very pointed words, I am not going to shout. Abusing another person - verbally or otherwise - is wrong, for any reason.
And if posters need some sort of incentive to be polite, then again, were I a developer, I wouldn't want them playing my game in the first place. There is absolutely no excuse for acting like a complete and total asshat. None. The fact that you're not only making excuses for doing so, but actively advocating it, speaks volumes.
For those confused on how DDN's modular rules might work, this may provide some insight: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/11/the-world-of-darkness-shines-when-it-abandons-canon
@mikemearls: Uhhh... do you really not see all the 3e/4e that's basically the entire core system?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 7:57PM
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If anyone threatened that kind of stuff you should have turned it over to the police or FBI and let them arrest the fool that did it. It is a crime to threaten someone in any way shape or form...
I did. It got resolved. 'nuff said.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 8:02PM
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Maybe the answer is not banning people.
Wizard si not in the business of teaching people basic civility If they didn't learn such things before oming to these forums, they should leave until they do learn it.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 8:05PM
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if you can't emotionally handle internet tough guys you need to toughen up.
No, I don't. The emotionally abusive person needs to grow up and the community that tries to handwave away such behavior needs to get used to not getting direct communication with developers.
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on Oct 10, 2012 - 01:47PM
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 8:09PM
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if you can't emotionally handle internet tough guys you need to toughen up.
No, I don't. The emotionally abusive person needs to grow up and the community that tries to handwave away such behavior needs to get used to not getting direct communication with developers.
Exactly. I find it somewhat disgusting that requesting that folks actually engage in civil discourse without abuse is somehow in the wrong. Ridiculous.
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on Oct 10, 2012 - 01:48PM
For those confused on how DDN's modular rules might work, this may provide some insight: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/11/the-world-of-darkness-shines-when-it-abandons-canon
@mikemearls: Uhhh... do you really not see all the 3e/4e that's basically the entire core system?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 9:34PM
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if you can't emotionally handle internet tough guys you need to toughen up.
No, I don't. The emotionally abusive person needs to grow up and the community that tries to handwave away such behavior needs to get used to not getting direct communication with developers.
Why should anyone change if you refuse to change yourself?
Anyway, not everyone can be amazing like me and not cry when someone disagrees with them.
See ya, kiddies.
/flys away
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Orc_Barrons
on Oct 10, 2012 - 01:49PM
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8 months ago ::
Oct 10, 2012 - 2:21AM
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if you can't emotionally handle internet tough guys you need to toughen up.
No, I don't. The emotionally abusive person needs to grow up and the community that tries to hand wave away such behavior needs to get used to not getting direct communication with developers.
Exactly. I find it somewhat disgusting that requesting that folks actually engage in civil discourse without abuse is somehow in the wrong. Ridiculous.
We are asking for patience not telling you that its wrong to ask for civil discourse. What each person thinks civil discourse is, is different. When someone does something that is thought of as uncivil then they need to be told why it isn't civil and how to express the same ideas while being civil...
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8 months ago ::
Oct 10, 2012 - 4:49AM
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We are asking for patience not telling you that its wrong to ask for civil discourse. What each person thinks civil discourse is, is different. When someone does something that is thought of as uncivil then they need to be told why it isn't civil and how to express the same ideas while being civil...
Bull. You want WotC employees to come on here and get abused. That's not patience. That's sociopathy. Learn the difference.
For those confused on how DDN's modular rules might work, this may provide some insight: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/11/the-world-of-darkness-shines-when-it-abandons-canon
@mikemearls: Uhhh... do you really not see all the 3e/4e that's basically the entire core system?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 10, 2012 - 5:18AM
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I do not need to change because I am not in the wrong. And as stated the issue is not disagreement, but abuse. Your consistent refusal to acknowledge the difference speaks volume abiut tje level of discourse you seek.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 10, 2012 - 9:46AM
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I do not need to change because I am not in the wrong. And as stated the issue is not disagreement, but abuse.
Your example was extreme and the minority. Too many people confuse disagreement with abuse.
Sure some people aren't polite and think they are talking to their buddy, but who cares? What is obvious is that people can't take disagreement.
Your consistent refusal to acknowledge the difference speaks volume abiut tje level of discourse you seek.
Hey look, a personal attack because I disagree with you (I must be an evil person who wants name calling and insults, because I do not see thing like you). Seems like I am right, people can't take disagreement.
But hey, I understand, no need to make a big case about it. I can still continue the conversation and so could a designer.
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