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9 months ago ::
Sep 27, 2012 - 4:59PM
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As long as it has the same mechanical effect and isn't completely implausible, you can flavour it pretty much as you like.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 5:53AM
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Actually, yeah, I would be tempted to say you do need a hand free.
The attack is an unarmed attack (unless you use a tripping weapon) and unless you're a monk, you can't make that with an elbow, knee, forehead (forehead trip, yay!), etc... at least not by the rules. That's a special feature of the monk's IUS ability.
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How would you say that tripping with a Guisarme works?
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 6:37AM
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You put the pointy end in the other guy. Then yank.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 29, 2012 - 1:46PM
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The guisarme actually has a slight hook at the end of the blade. Use it to catch your opponent's ankle & pull.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 30, 2012 - 7:00AM
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The guisarme actually has a slight hook at the end of the blade. Use it to catch your opponent's ankle & pull.
Then why would you need a hand free?
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9 months ago ::
Sep 30, 2012 - 9:33AM
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You don't because it's a tripping weapon, like the spiked chain. The debate is on whether you need a hand free to trip with (for example) a longsword.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 30, 2012 - 10:07AM
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No it isnt.
The question was "Do I need a free hand to trip?" and the answer is "No". If you needed a free hand to trip it would say "You need a free hand to trip". It does not say that, so you do not need one.
I could see it as reasonable for someone to assume you might need a free hand, but if you think about it, thats not the case. The rules don't support it, and logic doesn't really support it. (I hit him in the back of the knee with my sword/kick him in the chest for two examples)
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9 months ago ::
Sep 30, 2012 - 10:32AM
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I was under the impression that the question was about needing a hand free to trip without a trip weapon - I'd say it's pretty obvious that if a weapon can be used for tripping, you can trip with just the weapon. Otherwise it would be impossible to trip with said guisarme.
However, for non-trip weapons, I think you do (unless you're a Monk, of course, who could trip with a generic unarmed strike). Yes, it's feasible that you could trip with a foot, say, but the rules already suggest that's Monk-only (since you can't make an unarmed strike with a kick).
Is it feasible that you could trip with a staff or other polearm? Definately, but then maybe they should be trip weapons. Is it feasible that you could trip with a dagger or sword? Not really IMO; you could hit them in the knee but that's more a hamstring-type manoeuvre which the rules don't really cover. Maybe the rules are a bit off here, but they're not completely illogical. Meanwhile, it seems clear to me that since it requires an unarmed touch attack, you need to make an unarmed strike to trip (of course, you could take a hand off a two-handed weapon and put it back as a free action, you just coulnd't do it with, say, a sword and shield).
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9 months ago ::
Sep 30, 2012 - 11:15AM
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Looking at the rules it would seem you could Trip using any part of your body even if you're hands are otherwise occupied.
Now personally, while I'd allow it I'm also going to penalize your attempt in some fashion unless you have some advanced skills at unarmed fighting.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 30, 2012 - 3:11PM
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It seems like you are using a lot of real world logic to make these rules decisions Fred. I can totally see your arguement, but DND doesn't follow real world logic, and using the DND rules you do not need a hand.
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