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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 6:23AM
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Benefit: Choose one arcane power that you know, and choose acid, cold, fire, lightning, or thunder. The power now deals that damage type in addition to its normal damage type and gains that keyword.
This benefit does not function for powers that don't deal damage. No, extra damage is not the power Elemental Escalation dealing the damage, it's an increase to whatever at-will you were using. That at-will is what is dealing the damage. Same with Power Strike, it doesn't deal any damage either.
And no, you can't admixture Aegis, because it doesn't do damage either. Not even Assault.
Powers that don't deal damage don't have damage type keywords.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 8:58AM
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Benefit: Choose one arcane power that you know, and choose acid, cold, fire, lightning, or thunder. The power now deals that damage type in addition to its normal damage type and gains that keyword.
This benefit does not function for powers that don't deal damage. No, extra damage is not the power Elemental Escalation dealing the damage, it's an increase to whatever at-will you were using. That at-will is what is dealing the damage. Same with Power Strike, it doesn't deal any damage either.
And no, you can't admixture Aegis, because it doesn't do damage either. Not even Assault.
Powers that don't deal damage don't have damage type keywords.
Except that elemental escalation has the "varies" keyword. And the fire version actually does have a damage type of fire in addition to any other once you hit L17 otherwise it would be ongoing 10 of the same type as the initial damage instead of ongoing 10 fire.
I think that the fact that it has varies indicates that it does have damage type keywords, just that they are the same as the spell you are using it with. There are other powers that say damage type varies as well that are arcane.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 9:53AM
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It shouldn't have "Varies" though, not by the existing keyword rules. It should be errata'd out, but its presence does not change the fact that it does not do damage. Even for the fire one, that's still the at-will power dealing the ongoing damage, not EE.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 11:51AM
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This benefit does not function for powers that don't deal damage. No, extra damage is not the power Elemental Escalation dealing the damage, it's an increase to whatever at-will you were using.Powers that don't deal damage don't have damage type keywords.
Hellfire Touch, Skulker's Venom and a multitude of other extra elemental damage inflicting powers disagree with you.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 11:59AM
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That people write powers incorrectly does not mean the rules aren't what the rules say they are.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 2:57PM
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Lets see.
Bless Weapon does not add radiant because extra damage cannont have a damage keyword.
It is an attack power. It does have a damage type which is "varies", which is a keyword which is defined in the RC. Reading the keyword rules, there is nothing that states that it cannot have a damage type. As a matter of fact, by the keyword rules, EE(fire) should actually have the keywords of "varies" and fire because it adds fire damage to the spell you are casting starting at L17.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 3:01PM
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It does add radiant, to the attack. Not to Bless Weapon.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 3:05PM
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But there is nothing in the rules that states that an arcane attack power cannot have a damage type and cannot have arcane admixture added to it.
Please list the rule that states it cannot have a keyword or where in arcane admixture it states it cannot be applied.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 3:07PM
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That people write powers incorrectly does not mean the rules aren't what the rules say they are.
What rule are you referring to and what this rule say exactly ?
Yan
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9 months ago ::
Sep 26, 2012 - 3:08PM
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But there is nothing in the rules that states that (insert fallacious statement here) cannot (rest of statement)
Incorrect logical argument, Munchkin fallacy.
Elemental Escalation does not do damage. The power it modifies does, but elemental escalation does not.
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