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8 months ago  ::  Sep 24, 2012 - 2:46PM #1
Aron11
Date Joined: Jan 15, 2012
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The Goblin Wolf Rider's Rider ability states:

"When this creature is destroyed, you can immediately deploy 1 Goblin or Wolf creature of Level 3 or lower in the square it occupied."

Where is this Goblin or Wolf creature supposed to come from?  Your creature hand?  The Creature deck?  The Graveyard?  From outside of these three piles?  From any of these?
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 24, 2012 - 5:47PM #2
Lord-Soth
Date Joined: Sep 20, 2012
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Good question.  I would interpret it as only from your creature hand, but then it would have limited usefulness depending on the makeup of your warband.  I look forward to a ruling on this one.
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 24, 2012 - 8:40PM #3
JonBen
Date Joined: Sep 24, 2012
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Wouldn't you deploy it the same way all creatures are deployed, i.e. from your hand.
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 2:15AM #4
Gapraid
Date Joined: Aug 3, 2012
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Sep 24, 2012 -- 8:40PM, JonBen wrote:

Wouldn't you deploy it the same way all Creatures are deployed, i.e. from your hand.




Exactly. The Rider power only breaks two rules: a) that you deploy during phase 3 (your Deploy phase) and b) that you deploy in your Start area.  The rules text says:

"[...]Choose any of the Creature cards in your hand and place the corresponding miniature[...]"

Since the Rider power doesn't let you choose your creature from your graveyard or your Creature deck, you still have to play by the rulesbook, where the creature comes from: your hand.

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 5:03AM #5
Westerness
Date Joined: Aug 15, 2011
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I would interpret that to mean from any source available. If you do not have a creature in your hand that matches the criteria (goblin or wolf of level 3 or lower), then you must be able to draw either from your Creature deck or your graveyard.
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 6:23AM #6
Ryuuzetsu
Date Joined: Aug 20, 2012
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i'm gonna rule with deploy rules as well. you must "deploy" from your hand. if you don't have one in your hand, oh well.

key words is "you can deploy"
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 6:51AM #7
Hreth
Date Joined: Oct 27, 2007
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Sep 24, 2012 -- 2:46PM, Aron11 wrote:

The Goblin Wolf Rider's Rider ability states:

"When this creature is destroyed, you can immediately deploy 1 Goblin or Wolf creature of Level 3 or lower in the square it occupied."

Where is this Goblin or Wolf creature supposed to come from?  Your creature hand?  The Creature deck?  The Graveyard?  From outside of these three piles?  From any of these?




The power says "deploy 1 Goblin or Wolf creature of Level 3 or lower." The term "deploy" is defined on p. 14 in the rulebook as follows: "Choose any of the Creature cards in your hand and place the corresponding miniature in your Start area, placing the Creature card face up in front of you."

In other words, the Goblin or Wolf must come from the creature cards in your hand.

 

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 10:20AM #8
Westerness
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By the book, I'd agree with you Hreth.

But in the spirit of what is intended by the rule, which is that the rider and mount are two separate creatures, I'd be inclined to house-rule it and let the player replace either the rider or the mount with a Creature from any source (hand, deck, or graveyard)--maybe to make it fair, the attacker can state whether they attacked and killed the rider or the mount.
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 11:40AM #9
Hreth
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Sep 25, 2012 -- 10:20AM, Westerness wrote:

But in the spirit of what is intended by the rule, which is that the rider and mount are two separate creatures, I'd be inclined to house-rule it and let the player replace either the rider or the mount with a Creature from any source (hand, deck, or graveyard)--maybe to make it fair, the attacker can state whether they attacked and killed the rider or the mount.




That's what House Rules are for, to capture your story lines, interpretation, style of play, etc. I'm just trying to help answer the OP's question.

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 12:56PM #10
JonBen
Date Joined: Sep 24, 2012
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Sep 25, 2012 -- 10:20AM, Westerness wrote:

By the book, I'd agree with you Hreth.

But in the spirit of what is intended by the rule, which is that the rider and mount are two separate creatures, I'd be inclined to house-rule it and let the player replace either the rider or the mount with a Creature from any source (hand, deck, or graveyard)--maybe to make it fair, the attacker can state whether they attacked and killed the rider or the mount.




The attack can kill both the goblin and the wolf. The intention of the rule is not in question, they clearly intend for you to follow all of the normal deploy rules execpt for the stated exeptions. I'm not sure what the spirit of the intention is though Tongue Out

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