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Thanks for responding.  That's how I thought most DM's treat EA...

I wasn't trying to be overly argumentative; in fact have a great deal of respect for you, Alcestis and others who frequent these Q&A forums.

It seems to me that RC made a sweeping change when it ruled that only free actions that need to operate as an interrupt are treated as an interrupt (see Wildblood Speed as an example of a real nerf).

Had the PHB FAQ been written after RC, I'm not sure wand of accuracy would have been allowed to interrupt during/after step 4.  Or EA.  Or MoaTL for that matter.  (IMO none of them "need" to interrupt after Step 3 to "function").  But doing so certainly makes it funner for players with those powers/features.

I think my example with OoE follows similar logic of how it's treated, which is consistent with RAW...

The main thing I can think of that differentiates OoE from the reroll abilities is that it appears to have two pieces -- (1) you roll twice in Step 3, and (2) you select which "result" you want.  The rerolls otoh (at least Wand of Accuracy) have been ruled not to have to interrupt during step 3, despite very similar verbage to OoE.

It'd be nice to get a third or fourth RAW opinion...  do you/Alcestis have any further thoughts?

Sep 25, 2012 -- 6:37PM, Dzance wrote:

Sep 25, 2012 -- 6:21PM, Alcestis wrote:

And EE involves rerolling, not rolling and picking. Again, not the same thing. OoE does only what it says it does. You are inventing things for OoE to do that it does not do.

Agreed.  You reroll twice due to EA, and pick either of the rerolls due to OoE.

The second roll does nothing because you did not pick it. This is not a difficult concept.

But you still 'missed' on one of the rerolls when you compared defenses per step 4.  So you didn't pick that reroll.

Making Attacks (RC p 214): "4. Compare the attack roll's result to the target's defense.  The attack specifies what defense to check.  If the result is equal to the specified result or higher, the attack hits the target.  Otherwise, it misses."  It is at this point with the missed reroll, that you pick the reroll that hits. 

Or does OoE require you to pick the (re)roll before reaching Step 4?  (If that's the case than I concede you're right.)

OoE tells you to roll 2d20, and pick 1.  Presumably, you are going to pick the higher d20 result.  Once you have chosen which d20 you want to use, then you compare it to your target's defenses.

After some introspection I think you/Plaguescarred are probably right (certainly with RAI).  I don't see anywhere in OoE that states you can choose after resolving the attack rolls (step 4)... Although I don't see that in Elven Accuracy or Wand of Accuracy verbage, either.

The difference is that OoE tells you specifically, "when you make an attack roll, roll twice and use either"..  instead of rolling 1d20, you roll 2d20, and you pick one.  You aren't rolling one, and then rerolling it.  

Technically speaking, with EA you roll the d20, dislike what the d20 shows, and decide to use EA to reroll the die.  Like Alcestis says, if you wait to determine if it's a hit or miss, then you've technically missed your trigger.  But most people have houseruled this (or simply overlooked the trigger phase) to allow it's use after it is known whether the attack hits or misses.  Or they play on a medium which doesn't separate the two steps, see below.

Sep 25, 2012 -- 6:54PM, Alcestis wrote:

Wand of Accuracy isn't even strictly speaking a power, but it functions as an Interrupt so you can add the bonus after you've compared. There can't be any debate about that, becaus of the FAQ. But again, adding a bonus and picking a roll are not the same thing, so the comparison is null.

WoA was made into a Power with Essentials I guess.  If you look at the Wizard Class in the Compendium, it now says "Wand of Accuracy: Once per encounter, you can use your Wand of Accuracy power." and it lists WoA as a power.  Since the Devs have answered that you can use this after you know if you hit or not, then you can.  But as Written, you should be deciding to use this after you roll your attack, not after you compare defenses.  Unlike the Human Racial Heroic Effort, that specifies "Trigger: You miss with an attack or fail a saving throw."

Obviously, They have decided that WoA works in the same manner as HE, though they never deemed it important enough to re-write the trigger of WoA.  

As for how it all works out.  When playing on the VT, certain things are overlooked, because with automation, the rolling process automatically includes the comparing process.  Unless you turn off the Automation, there is no way to roll an attack and not know if it hit's or misses.. so a little leeway is granted by basis of the medium in which one plays the game.