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9 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 11:25AM #1
beldinme
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Okay, I've been looking at the descriptions of the dragonshard augments in the Compendium.

The shard of the mage apparently can only be used on a weapon that is used as an implement (i.e. a hexblade can't attach it to her magic rod)

Likewise, the description for the pact weapons say they can't be enchanted.

Could I add the shard of merciless cold to a hexblade's magic rod and use that to deal extra damage when attacking with the fey pact weapon (the blade of winter's mourning?)

I know I can homerule, I was just wondering if that was possible under the "official" rules.

Thanks in advance!
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 5:24PM #2
logopolis
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This works, with some restrictions.

You are correct that dragonshards can be attached only to a magic weapon (EPG 111).  They cannot be attached to a non-magical weapon, nor can they be attached to an implement.

However, if you use a combined weapon/implement (ex. a staff if you multiclass, a light/heavy blade if you multiclass, an ironscar rod, etc.) you can attach a dragonshard to it.

When you use a pact weapon power with both the weapon and implement keyword, you gain the benefits of both your pact weapon and your implement, subject to the normal stacking rules (HotFK 207). My interpretation is that you will benefit from a dragonshard in this situation.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 7:23PM #3
beldinme
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Thanks logopolis!

That makes sense. I'll use an ironscar rod or some other rod that can also be used as a melee weapon. I'm trying to make the damage a hexblade can do more equal to that of a slayer. (essentials builds)
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 10:02AM #4
Rood.Inverse
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Does this also apply to the Winter Court Weapon found as part of the Feywild themes? It gives you a +1 magic weapon you can summon at-will.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 10:57AM #5
logopolis
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Sep 18, 2012 -- 10:02AM, Rood.Inverse wrote:

Does this also apply to the Winter Court Weapon found as part of the Feywild themes? It gives you a +1 magic weapon you can summon at-will.


I assume that you're referring to the Unseelie Agent's create shadow-wrought weapon power?

Create shadow-wrought weapon lets you create a weapon of any type you want. If you can use that type of weapon as an implement (ex. using the Arcane Implement Proficiency feat to steal the swordmage's light/heavy blade implement proficiency), then you can use it with your pact weapon powers.

Depending on how your DM rules it, there may be another problem with summoned weapons: the rules do not define what happens to a dragonshard if the weapon it's attached to disappears. If your DM rules that the dragonshard falls off, then you'll need to spend a bunch of minor actions to draw and reattach your dragonshard, and then resummon your pact weapon, each time you summon the shadow-wrought weapon; this would make it impractical for combat situations.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 2:47PM #6
beldinme
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@logopolis

That's why I was planning to attach the shard to the rod, not to the pact weapon. I'm even considering thinking of the pact weapon as a "lighstaber" with the rod as the hilt. I think that is more cool than wielding a rod in one hand and a magic rapier in the other. (personal preference)
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