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9 months ago  ::  Sep 15, 2012 - 9:33PM #1
lokiare
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I think its time for WotC to step out of the shadows and present their game in the light of day. They need to advertise in the mainstream. They need to get commercials, billboards, magazine advertisements.

If they don't they will fall behind the times and lose market share to other companies. In fact the latest game informer magazine has an entire two page article on the rise of table top games. They mention fantasy flight games and others, but I didn't see a single reference to D&D. That is a travesty. WotC needs to step up...
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 12:39AM #2
Quidhala
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I think they started to with the return of Red Box I saw a lot more publicity. Do you think they will ever have an add in the middle of prime time TV? Or just on Cartoon network, Scifi, and G4? Don't say Big Bang Theory.

You know how the military adverts show a knight fighting a dragon and then he morphs into a soldier in combat? Maybe take that idea and run in reverse. D&D was something I saw a lot of deployed soldiers enjoy in their down time. A lot of them never played before.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 12:51AM #3
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Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:39AM, Quidhala wrote:

Do you think they will ever have an add in the middle of prime time TV? Or just on Cartoon network, Scifi, and G4?


Hasbro has its own cable network now.
Rerunning the 80s D&D cartoon on the Hub might be a good idea.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 12:53AM #4
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Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:51AM, Qmark wrote:

Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:39AM, Quidhala wrote:

Do you think they will ever have an add in the middle of prime time TV? Or just on Cartoon network, Scifi, and G4?


Hasbro has its own cable network now.
Rerunning the 80s D&D cartoon on the Hub might be a great idea.




Really even getting a two page article in a non-rpg magazine would be a huge deal. Especially if it explains how D&D is different than bored games and video games...

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 12:55AM #5
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Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:53AM, lokiare wrote:

Really even getting a two page article in a non-rpg magazine would be a huge deal. Especially if it explains how D&D is different than bored games and video games...


Doing so when abandoning a line and about two years out of the new line is probably not a good idea.

However, a little bit of marketing for the reprint books would help.  Getting the rights to Shadow over Mystara and Tower of Doom from Capcom (or working something out) and pushing those games on XBL/PSN/Steam would be awesome too.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 12:57AM #6
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Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:39AM, Quidhala wrote:

I think they started to with the return of Red Box I saw a lot more publicity. Do you think they will ever have an add in the middle of prime time TV? Or just on Cartoon network, Scifi, and G4? Don't say Big Bang Theory. You know how the military adverts show a knight fighting a dragon and then he morphs into a soldier in combat? Maybe take that idea and run in reverse. D&D was something I saw a lot of deployed soldiers enjoy in their down time. A lot of them never played before.




I dunno.  If they hadn't already tried the "lets appeal to nostalgia with a 'red box' approach" in 4E - I'd agree.


But I think if they try that stunt again they'll be ridiculed all across the internet.


They'd be better off going for a white box or a woodgrain box than a red box.


Carl

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 12:58AM #7
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Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:57AM, CarlT wrote:

They'd be better off going for a white box or a woodgrain box than a red box.


I wonder why there's no apparent whitebox reprint plans?

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 1:00AM #8
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Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:57AM, CarlT wrote:

Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:39AM, Quidhala wrote:

I think they started to with the return of Red Box I saw a lot more publicity. Do you think they will ever have an add in the middle of prime time TV? Or just on Cartoon network, Scifi, and G4? Don't say Big Bang Theory. You know how the military adverts show a knight fighting a dragon and then he morphs into a soldier in combat? Maybe take that idea and run in reverse. D&D was something I saw a lot of deployed soldiers enjoy in their down time. A lot of them never played before.




I dunno.  If they hadn't already tried the "lets appeal to nostalgia with a "red box" in 4E - I'd agree.


But I think if they try that stunt again they'll be ridiculed all across the internet.


They'd be better off going for a white box or a woodgrain box than a red box.


Carl      




Or just modernizing it and getting a box full of modern art work. With lots of cool dragons magic muscles and cleavage. that would sell like crazy...

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 1:01AM #9
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Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:58AM, Qmark wrote:

Sep 16, 2012 -- 12:57AM, CarlT wrote:

They'd be better off going for a white box or a woodgrain box than a red box.


I wonder why there's no apparent whitebox reprint plans?




Are you sure there aren't?  At least as a pdf?  I know quite a few people in the OSR who are assuming they will be including it as part of the "republishing materials from all the old editions".

I don't know if they will take the print publishing of old editions back that far or not.  If I learn they are going to, I might consider selling my LBBs now for the cash and rebuying the 'new print'.  Or not - they are kind of a symbol in their own right.
 

Carl 

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2012 - 1:04AM #10
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I've always kind of wondered why you don't see a whole lot of advertisements for tabletop games in general outside of magazines and websites that are basically already largely devoted to tabletop gaming. I mean, my assumption is that people crunch the numbers and determine that it's inefficient (advertising isn't cheap, although it's cheaper in some places and media) to advertise in places outside of media where you know you're getting a very targeted shot at your audience. Tabletop gaming is a niche hobby that people get into mostly through their friends (I think). An advertisement on television would have to translate into a heck of a lot of sales to be worth it, and I don't know if people make their tabletop gaming decisions like that.

There's one thing that I can think of that would make an advertising push maybe make more sense soon than at most points in time; with a new edition, they benefit to some degree from mere awareness of the product, perhaps dramatically more than normal.

On the other hand, Wizards' flagship product, Magic the Gathering crept up the advertising in more mainstream channels a few years ago, but appears (although my sample isn't very exhaustive) to have backed off a bit from there since then. (If anyone's seen Magic television ads recently, let me know.) It's certainly not because the market has shrunk; the game has had nothing but best-year-evers for the past several years, and they've finally started producing an introductory product that's really singing for them. It's possible that broadside advertising simply isn't that effective for products like D&D. Seeing D&D ads in mainstream locations would be sweet; I'm guessing we just don't get that because they've decided that it's not worth it.
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