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8 months ago  ::  Sep 29, 2012 - 2:18AM #441
Steely_Dan
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Sep 29, 2012 -- 2:03AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 1:23AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 12:48AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 28, 2012 -- 12:03PM, DemoMonkey wrote:

"and no one expects the dnd ranger to have wizard spells."

Except the 1st Edition players.




I doubt it.





I agree, it doesn't fit, but, man, there was a certain panache about playing a 1st Ed ranger and blapping something with a magic missile.




lol fair enough.





I forget (and I am miles away from my 1st Ed PHB), but was the Giant Class class bonus damage feature (something else nifty) applicable to the ranger's spell damage, or only weapon attacks?

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 29, 2012 - 2:35AM #442
DoctorBadWolf
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Sep 29, 2012 -- 2:18AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 2:03AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 1:23AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 12:48AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 28, 2012 -- 12:03PM, DemoMonkey wrote:

"and no one expects the dnd ranger to have wizard spells."

Except the 1st Edition players.




I doubt it.





I agree, it doesn't fit, but, man, there was a certain panache about playing a 1st Ed ranger and blapping something with a magic missile.




lol fair enough.





I forget (and I am miles away from my 1st Ed PHB), but was the Giant Class class bonus damage feature (something else nifty) applicable to the ranger's spell damage, or only weapon attacks?




It's been way too long since I poked at 1e to remember that, man. :D I've slept since then.

More sex and gender equality and racial equality shouldn't even be an argument--it should simply be an assumption for any RPG that wants to stay relevant in the 21st century.



Mar 8, 2012 -- 1:58PM, Skeptical_Clown wrote:

  I could say anything in D&D is silly though, because it's a silly game and we are silly people.

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 29, 2012 - 2:44AM #443
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Sep 29, 2012 -- 2:35AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 2:18AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 2:03AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 1:23AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 12:48AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 28, 2012 -- 12:03PM, DemoMonkey wrote:

"and no one expects the dnd ranger to have wizard spells."

Except the 1st Edition players.




I doubt it.





I agree, it doesn't fit, but, man, there was a certain panache about playing a 1st Ed ranger and blapping something with a magic missile.




lol fair enough.





I forget (and I am miles away from my 1st Ed PHB), but was the Giant Class class bonus damage feature (something else nifty) applicable to the ranger's spell damage, or only weapon attacks?




It's been way too long since I poked at 1e to remember that, man. :D I've slept since then.





Slept since when and for how long?

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 29, 2012 - 3:00AM #444
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Since...sometime in the 90's?

More sex and gender equality and racial equality shouldn't even be an argument--it should simply be an assumption for any RPG that wants to stay relevant in the 21st century.



Mar 8, 2012 -- 1:58PM, Skeptical_Clown wrote:

  I could say anything in D&D is silly though, because it's a silly game and we are silly people.

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 29, 2012 - 3:08AM #445
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Sep 29, 2012 -- 3:00AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Since...sometime in the 90's?





Nice, I can't cop Zs the way I used to in my youth, if I sleep past 7 or 8 in the morning (even if I went to bed at 4:00am) I feel like I've won.

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 29, 2012 - 7:26PM #446
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Sep 29, 2012 -- 2:18AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 2:03AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 1:23AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 12:48AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 28, 2012 -- 12:03PM, DemoMonkey wrote:

"and no one expects the dnd ranger to have wizard spells."

Except the 1st Edition players.




I doubt it.





I agree, it doesn't fit, but, man, there was a certain panache about playing a 1st Ed ranger and blapping something with a magic missile.




lol fair enough.





I forget (and I am miles away from my 1st Ed PHB), but was the Giant Class class bonus damage feature (something else nifty) applicable to the ranger's spell damage, or only weapon attacks?





Melee only.

So - as written, it wouldn't even apply to bow/ ranged attacks.


The whole 'rangers as masters of the bow' thing didn't come about until later.

Which is why I find it so amusing when I run into people who think the 'range' in ranger has to do with ranged attacks (and I do know of people who really think that).


Carl

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 29, 2012 - 9:59PM #447
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Sep 29, 2012 -- 7:26PM, CarlT wrote:

 
Which is why I find it so amusing when I run into people who think the 'range' in ranger has to do with ranged attacks (and I do know of people who really think that).


Carl



 
Tolkein merged these two ... origins of the word Ranger I think 

 late 14c., "gamekeeper,"

more recently 1660 -- 
man (often mounted) who polices an area

Improvisation in 4e: Improv. Attacks(by wrecan) - Fave 4E Improvisations

The Non-combatant Adventurer

Reality is unrealistic - and even monkeys protest unfairness

Dynamic Reflavoring : The Fighter : The Wizard : The Swordmage
Creative Character Collection - Featuring:The Faerie Master - Snow White - Joxer - Ironman - Elric - Bloodwright

By virtue of being a player your characters are the protagonists in a heroic fantasy game even at level one

"You have to explicitly give non-casters permission to do awesome, where as with magic it is just assumed they can." -Garthanos

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 30, 2012 - 1:28PM #448
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Sep 29, 2012 -- 3:08AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 3:00AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Since...sometime in the 90's?





Nice, I can't cop Zs the way I used to in my youth, if I sleep past 7 or 8 in the morning (even if I went to bed at 4:00am) I feel like I've won.




It's hit or miss, for me. Sometimes I sleep well for months at a time, sometimes I go months without a good night.

More sex and gender equality and racial equality shouldn't even be an argument--it should simply be an assumption for any RPG that wants to stay relevant in the 21st century.



Mar 8, 2012 -- 1:58PM, Skeptical_Clown wrote:

  I could say anything in D&D is silly though, because it's a silly game and we are silly people.

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 30, 2012 - 1:35PM #449
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Sep 30, 2012 -- 1:28PM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 3:08AM, Steely_Dan wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 3:00AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

Since...sometime in the 90's?





Nice, I can't cop Zs the way I used to in my youth, if I sleep past 7 or 8 in the morning (even if I went to bed at 4:00am) I feel like I've won.




It's hit or miss, for me. Sometimes I sleep well for months at a time, sometimes I go months without a good night.




I sleep for around 8 hours but I stay awake for around 20 hours at a time. Figure that one out...Smile

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 30, 2012 - 2:24PM #450
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Sep 30, 2012 -- 1:35PM, lokiare wrote:


I sleep for around 8 hours but I stay awake for around 20 hours at a time. Figure that one out...Smile


That's fairly normal I think.

Pre-electric lighting our body clocks were highly regulated by the day-night cycle, but nowdays we've thrown that control completely out of whack. I'm pretty sure 28 hour cycles in the absence of that control are standard. I know when I'm on holiday and don't have anything specific I need to get done I tend to get later to bed and later to raise every day. Smile

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