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9 months ago ::
Sep 07, 2012 - 10:54AM
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Was just wondering why the sword mage doesn't have a basic ranged attack like magic missle or something. We've house ruled it so i have a simple one, but why wasn't something like this included? basically he just channels his arcana through his sword and slashes sending a wave of magic out(picture trunks from DBZ)
just wondering if anyone else came up with something like this or why it wasn't thought of by the dev team.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 07, 2012 - 11:29AM
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Because the Swordmage is a Defender, which is a melee class. Standing back and plunking things at a distance isn't really his MO.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 07, 2012 - 11:44AM
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you could multiclass wizard and get mm as an encounter power, if you are stuck way the hell away from something it could come in handy, plus the access to wizard feats can help some builds. swordmage and wizard also hybrid really well together imo, so there are other ways you can gain access to it and use it.
also check out the bladesinger, it gets access to mm like what youre talking about
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9 months ago ::
Sep 07, 2012 - 12:25PM
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Or if your secondary is Strength, you could do what other melee classes do and invest in a secondary throwing weapon. Throwing Weapons - The poor man's magic missile. Or instead of splitting focus between two weapons, you could apply the Farbound enchantment to your primary weapon, which gives an extra benefit to swordmages anyway.
You could also multiclass, hybrid, or take a theme that grants ranged attacks, such as Wilder, Veiled Alliance, or Order Adept.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 08, 2012 - 10:28PM
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Or if your secondary is Strength, you could do what other melee classes do and invest in a secondary throwing weapon. Throwing Weapons - The poor man's magic missile. Or instead of splitting focus between two weapons, you could apply the Farbound enchantment to your primary weapon, which gives an extra benefit to swordmages anyway.
You could also multiclass, hybrid, or take a theme that grants ranged attacks, such as Wilder, Veiled Alliance, or Order Adept.
naw my current DM aparently hates multi/hybrid cuz they break the game or something...was either thinking that or a bow lol
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9 months ago ::
Sep 09, 2012 - 12:30AM
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Or if your secondary is Strength, you could do what other melee classes do and invest in a secondary throwing weapon. Throwing Weapons - The poor man's magic missile. Or instead of splitting focus between two weapons, you could apply the Farbound enchantment to your primary weapon, which gives an extra benefit to swordmages anyway.
You could also multiclass, hybrid, or take a theme that grants ranged attacks, such as Wilder, Veiled Alliance, or Order Adept.
naw my current DM aparently hates multi/hybrid cuz they break the game or something...was either thinking that or a bow lol
Your DM is incorrect.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 09, 2012 - 12:39AM
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Or if your secondary is Strength, you could do what other melee classes do and invest in a secondary throwing weapon. Throwing Weapons - The poor man's magic missile. Or instead of splitting focus between two weapons, you could apply the Farbound enchantment to your primary weapon, which gives an extra benefit to swordmages anyway.
You could also multiclass, hybrid, or take a theme that grants ranged attacks, such as Wilder, Veiled Alliance, or Order Adept.
naw my current DM aparently hates multi/hybrid cuz they break the game or something...was either thinking that or a bow lol
Your DM is incorrect.
And also wrong.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 09, 2012 - 12:46AM
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Also worth noting on thsi issue: Most Swordmages should probably be taking Intelligent Bladesmaster, which is a feat allowing you to use INT instead of STR for basic attacks - including heavy thrown RBAs. Invest in a Farbond Spellblade. Problem solved.
However, to get to the cusp of the original issue; talk to your DM about getting Magic Missile in addition to your other two at-wills. You should find you virtually never use it anyway - Swordmages are mobile defenders, so they want to close on enemies, not sit back and plink.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 09, 2012 - 1:41AM
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Or if your secondary is Strength, you could do what other melee classes do and invest in a secondary throwing weapon. Throwing Weapons - The poor man's magic missile. Or instead of splitting focus between two weapons, you could apply the Farbound enchantment to your primary weapon, which gives an extra benefit to swordmages anyway.
You could also multiclass, hybrid, or take a theme that grants ranged attacks, such as Wilder, Veiled Alliance, or Order Adept.
naw my current DM aparently hates multi/hybrid cuz they break the game or something...was either thinking that or a bow lol
Your DM is incorrect.
And also wrong.
so...are they overpowered or not....=/
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9 months ago ::
Sep 09, 2012 - 2:37AM
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so...are they overpowered or not....=/
No.
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