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9 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 5:41PM #31
RadicalTaoist
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2004
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On it.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 10:35PM #32
Scythal
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2012
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Ok, thank you. Here is another question: Why did you take practise spellcaster at level 12, when your only non "caster" level is your 1st level of spellthief and you take care of it with master spellthief at level 6?
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 4:54AM #33
RadicalTaoist
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2004
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To deal with the caster level loss in non-divination spells that results from the Unseen Seer's divination spell power class feature, which boosts your CL for divinations but correspondingly penalizes your caster level on all other spells.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 8:59AM #34
Caker
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2012
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Having the spell list at the end is incredibly useful for helping you decide what types of spells you should be looking at. If this could be done for any relevant showcase I would love you forever.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 10:19AM #35
RadicalTaoist
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2004
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None of the other arcane casters have enough of a spells known list to matter; maybe Face First and the T3, though the latter has far fewer powers than the Snoipah has spells.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 12:15PM #36
Tempest_Stormwind
Date Joined: Jun 20, 2004
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Sep 19, 2012 -- 10:19AM, RadicalTaoist wrote:

None of the other arcane casters have enough of a spells known list to matter; maybe Face First and the T3, though the latter has far fewer powers than the Snoipah has spells.



I argued for it here because you put the sorcerer spells inside the SBlocks, instead of in the text leading up to the SBlocks. Read the psionic builds and it looks totally different as a result.

That's really more a consequence with how spells and powers are learned than a problem with presentation, but there's times when a summary list like that is required. Like if you ever decide to showcase the SSLTFKP.

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[TS] Tempest Stormwind, [AR] Andarious Rosethorn, [RT] Radical Taoist, [SN] Sionnis, [DH] DisposableHero_, [SH] Seishi.

[TS] The Pinball Brothers: Large And In Charge (Melee, Lockdown, Charge, Juggling)
[TS] Ashardalon Reborn: I Will Swallow Your Soul (Melee, Fear, Negative Levels, AoE, Theme)
[AR] "A"-Game Paladin: Play That Funky Music, Knight Boy! (Team Support, Melee, Theme, Single-Class)
[RT] Uncanny Trapsmith: Get in, make it look like an accident, get out. (Skillmonkey, Stealth/Scout/Infiltration, Unorthodox Methods, Theme)
[AR] Wizsassin: *Everything* is permitted. (Spellcaster, Support, Sneak Attack, Utility)
[TS] Phantom Rush: General Gish Gouda. (Gish, Theme, Setting-Specific(Eberron), Early-Entry PrC)
[TS] Storm Knight: Another kind of gish. (Melee/"Gish", Theme, Setting-Specific(Eberron), Unorthodox Methods)
[TS] Inevitable Nightmare: The weapon you only have to fire once. (Melee, "Unorthodox" Methods (no charging), Reliability)
[AR] Captain Constitution: The number one threat to America. (Melee, TOUGHTOUGHTOUGH, Defense, Theme)
[AR] Nuker: I casts the spells that makes the peoples fall down! (Spellcaster, damage, blasting, damage)
[TS] Dread Lord of the Dead: Let the Reaping Begin! (NPC-only, Variable (combat/casting/leadership), Iconic Villain, Theme)
[AR] Heavy Crusader: No Rest. No Mercy. No Matter What. (Melee, Damage (No charging), Variable, Theme).
[TS] Gun Fu: It's bullet time (Ranged, THEORETICAL, Twin weapons, Theme)
[RT] Face First: We should talk. (Psionic, social, mind-control, info-management)
[SN] Chaingun Porcupine: Never Enuff Dakka. (Ranged, Skirmishing, Spike Damage, Incarnum)
[RT] Always On Edge: The Mortal Draw deals death. (Melee, Generalist, Dungeoneering, Stunt)
[AR] Feral Druid: Real feral taste. Zero druid calories. (Melee, offense, damage, murder)
[RT] Rusty!: Man's Best Friend (Sentry, Support, Backup, Rearguard)
[RT] The T3 (Tashalatora Triple Threat): My Kung Fu is More Powerful (Hybrid, Flex-Function, Melee, Caster)
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[AR] Dreamblade: Rest in Pieces. (Melee, Damage, Single-Class, Combo/Momentum)
[AR] Evasion Tank: “When fighting angry blind men, is best to stay out of the way.” (Melee, Tank, Unorthodox Methods (attack negation), Theme)
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[AR] Heavy Weapons Elf: WHO TOUCHED MY BOW? (Ranged, Cohort, Damage, Unorthodox Methods (ranged ToB))
[RT] Gnowhere Gnome: A little man who wasn't there (Caster, Stealth, Single-Class, Elusive)
[AR] Uberflank: I got your back. (Melee, support, stunt, teamwork)
[TS] Flip the Bird: Everyday I'm shuffling (Ranged, harrier, unorthodox methods (ranged ToB / off-turn movement), support)
[DH] Eat Sleep Gank: Real Ultimate Power (Stealth, Assassination, Spike, Magic Versatility)
[AR] Slash and Burn: Mind, Body, Blade, Flame / Aspects of a greater whole / which delivers death. (Melee, Theme (flex-style), Damage, Stunt)
[RT] Edge of the Light: Cut, Fade to Black (Melee, Defense/Offense, Momentum, Tactical)
[RT] Quiet Murder: Cut throats, not corners. (Melee, Stealth, Harrier, Tactical)
[TS] Wand Overdrive: Say Hello to my little friends. (Caster, support/artillery/variable, wand specialist)
[RT] God Hand: What did the five fingers say to the face? (Melee/Gish, Unarmed, SAD, Theme)
[AR] Zero Buff Time Gish: Try to keep up! (Gish, Speed, Movement, Opportunity)
[TS] Robo Tackle: I Am Iron Man. (Melee, setting-specific (Eberron), positioning, theme, stunt)


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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 2:15PM #37
New-Shadow
Date Joined: Feb 12, 2011
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[/quote]
That's really more a consequence with how spells and powers are learned than a problem with presentation, but there's times when a summary list like that is required. Like if you ever decide to showcase the SSLTFKP.[/quote]


Well that sounds like an interesting name acronym, I would certainly like to see the build that has that long a name that it needs an acronym to describe it.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 2:51PM #38
RadicalTaoist
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2004
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Actually, that's only the spell list, which is really the highlight. The build that we built just to take advantage of that spell list is called the SWFKP. If you're familiar with the old works of FrankTrollman, you'll likely be able to guess what the FKP stands for.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 4:05PM #39
New-Shadow
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Uh...actually...I'm not.  When I tried to look him up, all I got were random posts mentioning him and his side of the story of why he was banned.  What does FKP mean?  First to Kill the Party?  Fast Killing Party?  ...I've got nothing after that.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 6:37PM #40
RadicalTaoist
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Let's just say I built a sorceror around this.
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