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10 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 6:19PM #1
brownkid2192
Date Joined: Feb 4, 2011
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Dwarves should have darkvision i think they are born and raised in mountains or caves some dwarves only see the light of a tourch and forge.
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 6:24PM #2
CarlT
Date Joined: Apr 10, 2009
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Sep 4, 2012 -- 6:19PM, brownkid2192 wrote:

Dwarves should have darkvision i think they are born and raised in mountains or caves some dwarves only see the light of a tourch and forge.




They may live underground - but they don't live in dark, bare tunnels.  They live in vast halls lit by torches and hearths.  They are no more likely to find themselves in eternal darkness than your average office cubicle worker.

Low-light vision is the norm, darkvision should be rare and restricted to those races that never leave the dark.

In fact - I'd say that darkvision and light sensitivity should be tighly connected, if not explicitely two sides of the same coin.

Carl

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 7:52PM #3
jfriant
Date Joined: Jan 22, 2012
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bring back infravision
What's the matter, you dissentious rogues,
That rubbing the poor itch of your opinion
Make yourselves scabs?
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 8:22PM #4
Plaguescarred
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
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Its similar in fact and even better as Infravision has a range while Lowlight Vision doesn't, only distance away from light.

So Dwarves treat darkness as shadows and can see in shadows for all practical purposes.


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Yan
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 8:50PM #5
Orkbard
Date Joined: Mar 3, 2012
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Sep 4, 2012 -- 8:22PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Its similar in fact and even better as Infravision has a range while Lowlight Vision doesn't, only distance away from light.

So Dwarves treat darkness as shadows and can see in shadows for all practical purposes.



I could get behind that.

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 9:46PM #6
CarlT
Date Joined: Apr 10, 2009
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Sep 4, 2012 -- 8:50PM, Orkbard wrote:

Sep 4, 2012 -- 8:22PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Its similar in fact and even better as Infravision has a range while Lowlight Vision doesn't, only distance away from light.

So Dwarves treat darkness as shadows and can see in shadows for all practical purposes.



I could get behind that.




Well - that's good.  Since that is how the rules currently work.

Carl

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 9:49PM #7
drzachary
Date Joined: Apr 29, 2010
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Sep 4, 2012 -- 8:22PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Its similar in fact and even better as Infravision has a range while Lowlight Vision doesn't, only distance away from light.

So Dwarves treat darkness as shadows and can see in shadows for all practical purposes.




Waaaaait a sec.  I read Low-Light as having a radius of 30', centered on the player:


Low-Light Vision: If there is no light within 30 feet of you, you treat shadows in that radius as normal light, and you treat darkness in that radius as shadows. 

So everything outside of 30' would be as normal vision dictates.  Right? 




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10 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 9:57PM #8
Plaguescarred
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Yeah in that radius your right i went off the top of my head.

Outsie that radius they should treat darkness as darkness.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 11:22PM #9
Melwick
Date Joined: May 14, 2012
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Sep 4, 2012 -- 8:22PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Its similar in fact and even better as Infravision has a range while Lowlight Vision doesn't, only distance away from light.

So Dwarves treat darkness as shadows and can see in shadows for all practical purposes.





Cool!

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 12:31AM #10
Saelorn
Date Joined: May 27, 2012
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I've always imagined that Dwarves would be fairly near-sighted, since they never have to focus at a distance beyond which they've lit with torches and lamps.

That's just me, though. 
The metagame is not the game.
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