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Switch to Forum Live View Are we ready to have full orcs as a fully fleshed out PC race.
9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 6:03AM #21
Alynn
Date Joined: Jan 20, 2005
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I don't mind a full orc as a PC race.

That being said it wouldn't be one in my world. At least in a normal adventuring party. An orc would be in a party of kobolds, goblinoids, and other "dark" races. They wouldn't be in mixed company with "light" races.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 7:37AM #22
Ahearn_Condon
Date Joined: Dec 12, 2009
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I'm curious. What would you think if they did not but things like the orc in the PHB but they added a PC stat block to every monster in the MM that had an 8 or higher INT?
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 7:52AM #23
DontEatRawHagis
Date Joined: Sep 20, 2010
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I would play an Orc if I was allowed to. Cause honestly they have been a staple in many games I have played. Whats to stop one orc from saying, "hey I like being a raider, bandit, murderer, and/or barbarian but really I would like to get paid for doing this. Or actually become a hero".

Honestly playing a mercenary Orc would be fine for me. They just have been tight casted as evil barbarians, like the huns.

In one of my homebrewed settings the players were going to meet a retired Orc on a farm, problem was going to be if orcs stop fighting they age drastically, the orc in question was only 5 years old, but looked 80.(In my game Orcs mature at 2 years old).
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 7:53AM #24
trebor_rjf
Date Joined: Sep 30, 2006
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i've never been a fan of monstrous races, either from a player's perspective or as a DM. more often than not, they end up being disruptive in nearly any setting, and they never get the same level of polish that a regular PC race gets.

That's not to say that i don't want them in the game though, i just don't want them killing half-orcs and taking their stuff. 
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 7:58AM #25
Koga305
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To me, an Orc PC would make more sense than a Dragonborn or Tiefling. Though given the choice I'd play a hobgoblin... I love the flavor of their culture.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 9:09AM #26
Maxperson
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Aug 31, 2012 -- 6:48PM, Garthanos wrote:

 Tolkeinian Orcs... aka ugly twisted broken elves use the stats for ealves but ditch the fluff of beauty. An Orc with a personality strong enough to be become a hero wouldnt necessarily get the Charisma penalty the rest of them suffer for being broken spirits...ie easily manipulated by Sauron.




Once again, the Tolkien orcs were nowhere near equal to Tolkien elves.  They were not as fast.  They were not as agile.  They didn't have the gifts of far sight or other gifts of the elves.  They were just twisted mockeries that were not even stronger (until the Uruk-hai of Saruman).  All they had were numbers. 

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 9:14AM #27
rampant
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I'm all for wierd PCs but something to keep in mind is that we should not expect the playable mind-flayer to have the same stats as the monster version. 
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 10:19AM #28
Artifact
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Sep 1, 2012 -- 9:14AM, rampant wrote:

I'm all for wierd PCs but something to keep in mind is that we should not expect the playable mind-flayer to have the same stats as the monster version. 


I'd be cool with that.

This may sound weird . . . okay it is weird . . . I've always wanted to play a mind flayer.  Prolly an unfullfiled wish from my old Spelljammer days.  That or it has something to do with tentacles .

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 10:50AM #29
Qmark
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It's simple normalization. 
The Minotaur or Mindflayer the usual D&D party murders is actually level 5 or 8 or so.  The ones Fred and Bob are playing have been dialed down to level one.

Everything from the Tarrasque to a wooden chair should be "playable".  Whether or not it's a good idea is for your DM to decide.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 01, 2012 - 11:07AM #30
Drycanth
Date Joined: Aug 10, 2012
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As long as they keep all the, to use a 2E term, Humanoids in a seperate book, I could care less what they choose to make playable. I can say yes or no in my game to anything so I have no problem with it.

I only make the "not in the core phb request" for simplicity sake. I just want a solid vanilla core so that I can play my striped down version of the game with out having to remove large chunks of the base book. It is far easier to add to the core from additional books like 2E did than to try to remove large chunks from the BRB.

You can have your untold number of different classes, numerous races, and the kitchen sink... I have no problem with it. I just ask to keep the base three simple for those that don't want all that.

**edit** I mean the base three books .. that didn't seem that clear to me. 
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