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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 7:25PM #1
Armisael
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2007
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Basically, what the title said. It has come to my attention that Blackstone Guardian's E11 can petrify, no save, no caveats, once per encounter for 2 PP. Since this is exceedingly powerful, I'm looking for ways to optimize around it. Anyone know of a reliable per-encounter way of eliminating resist all?
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 7:34PM #2
ezrider23
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Just making sure you know it until the end of your next turn that the petrify condition lasts. If that was what you meant then so be it and lets resume your OP?
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 7:37PM #3
RenZhe
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MC Paladin and grab Paladin's Truth: When you attack a creature marked by you, you ignore that creature’s resistances and immunities.

Warlock has a D1, The Lash's Bite that also strips resistances. You can turn that daily into an encounter power one way or another. 

Edit: Or be a Tiefling and take Wizard's Wrath. 
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 7:41PM #4
Armisael
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Hmm...Paladin's Truth has promise. The ideal thing would be finding a way that allows allies to capitalize on it - basically use the power as a Leadery setup trick to eliminate a solo/elite/whatever per encounter with ease. Failing that though, I'll happily take a ridiculously good Striker power anyway. :P
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 7:45PM #5
RenZhe
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I was gonna ask why you'd spend time optimizing around a roundabout stun til ENT, but then I just realized a petrified target is unconscious. Dude, this is Knockout Blow, the encounter power.
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 7:48PM #6
Armisael
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And now you see why I want to strap it on a Leader and let 'er rip.
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 7:52PM #7
Project_Vile
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Maybe a more offensive version of Sainted Justice would fit?
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 8:02PM #8
ezrider23
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Aug 30, 2012 -- 7:48PM, Armisael wrote:

And now you see why I want to strap it on a Leader and let 'er rip.



Would a Tiefling Lazylord|Infernalock be a good option for this set up? Use Lash's Bite on turn 1 then AP into your best action enabeler and let your Super Friends decimate the opposition.
Strike that. I just reread the Blackstone Guardian PP and it is for Battlemind's. This seems like a terrible waste of your multi class but if your just OPing around one Power i would guess not a terrible loss.

What Leader would Hybrid with the Battlemind best? 

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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 8:21PM #9
RenZhe
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What Leader would Hybrid with the Battlemind best?




The answer is still unconditionally the Warlord no matter what hybrid you're talking about (also: Warmaster ED for its U26), but you can make a strong argument for Artificer (CDG with Prismatic Strike?), Shaman, or BCL Cleric. The issue is that the one power that I can think of that provides unconditional resistance-stripping exists only on the Warlock, and that tends to be mutually exclusive with Paladin and any leader class, so you're left choosing between a massive personal nova or making all your allies awesome.

Unless you play your (Tiefling) Warlock|Paladin as a pseudo-leader, which...well, I don't see a problem there, really.

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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 8:25PM #10
Armisael
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Aug 30, 2012 -- 8:21PM, RenZhe wrote:

What Leader would Hybrid with the Battlemind best?




The answer is still unconditionally the Warlord no matter what hybrid you're talking about (also: Warmaster ED for its U26), but you can make a strong argument for Artificer (CDG with Prismatic Strike?), Shaman, or BCL Cleric. The issue is that the one power that I can think of that provides unconditional resistance-stripping exists only on the Warlock, and that tends to be mutually exclusive with Paladin and any leader class, so you're left choosing between a massive personal nova or making all your allies awesome.

Unless you play your (Tiefling) Warlock|Paladin as a pseudo-leader, which...well, I don't see a problem there, really.




Now I really wanna make a build out of this. The power really is good enough to justify it.

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