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This is a question for dMs who like me refused to update to 4e and stuck with 3.5, I have pretty much run out of ideas to campain with and when i think i have one i get the typical player responce that its too hard or "your just out to kill us". I want to get my party more involved with the role play aspect of the game but all they seem to want to do is kill everything they run into. I told them that we are taking a break for a bit I've been looking through the DMG about creating my own world to spice things up, more oftin than not we play forgotten realms, but im struggleing with a diety structue. I guess i'm here to reach out if a few of us could come up with new world to play maybe our players and us could have a more enjoyable game experince. 



So far i've trashed about four diety structures i really like the idea of having a council in stead of one all powerful creator, and i really like the number eight not sure why.
I've also drawn up a few cities but thanks to children i have to redraw them agian. otherwise i don't really have much, need ideas.

thanks for reading guys hope to hear from anyone willing to help.... 

What are your major campaign focuses? Assign diety portfolios based off of that.

You generally need a diety of healing, nature, harvest, oceans, money, magic, death, war, protection, trickery, and honor. Add some sub domains, or combine them as you want. 

As an example for you here is one I made off the top of my head. 

• God of healing and protection. She is a sheltering mother type, but also the patron of many soldiers.
• A trickster god of the forest. He can be a satyr who is known for protecting small animals, but also children. 
• A death god with a heavy water theme. Marniers follow him and pray for their boats not to sink, but he also travels the rivers collecting dead souls from anywhere and escorting them down the river styx.
• A warrior priestes known for her love of money. She is the patron of all bandits and the orc hordes. 
• An arch-mage who ascended to godhood and is renoun for establishing the rules of the wizarding order. Specifically that most wizards have a code similarly to chivalry and can challenge one another to duels.
• The elder god who was lost in time. His seat on the gods council sits empty, and thus there is never a tie when they vote. His domain is time, and otherworldly beings pay him respects.
• The lord of the harvest, known for his ability to seed the [nile] and allows the desert races to grow food. Farmers and desert nomads pay him respect.
• The Justicar. A being that was not a god, but present while the other 7 created the world. It is his sacred duty to ensure laws are followed. Totally emotionless, and devoted to the word of the law. 

Back in the day, the 6 )no wizard or justicar) gods went to create the world with their powers combined. The justicar went to stop them, but they pleaded and he allowed it on the condition that Law is created and followed. This established the council of gods who make all godly decisions, and keep them from interfearing too much in the mortal world. About the time the wizard found a way to ascend, the elder god disappeared...

You've got paladins who crusade for Healing and Protection. A fairly muted forest theme in the setting, so you know this setting is probably more urban than normal. A strong maratime presence, and the campaign probably involves a few continents. Wizards who follow a strict code of action. And a desert that some raiders and nomads live in.

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Really you need to either have a setting built that needs some gods applied, or you need to break down some dieties to make your setting off that idea. You've got some cities built, can you talk about them?

well for the deity structure if you like having a council you could try running something like the Greek pantheon.  There's also already made structures for councils of deities if I remember right in both 3.5 and 4E.  I know you mentionned you didn't change to 4E but you could poach some stuff from that edition.  Anyway back to the pantheon idea.  Zeus, Athena, Aries, Poseidon, Hades, etc..  I'm sure you could get 8 to fit your needs.

But honestly if your players just answer with "you're just trying to kill us" at anything you throw at them maybe it's time to swap players or change who is the DM.  It sounds like they might have had enough or something.  Taking a break was a good idea, maybe they will have a more positive outlook when you get back together.

Aug 30, 2012 -- 2:07PM, Noctaem wrote:

well for the deity structure if you like having a council you could try running something like the Greek pantheon.  There's also already made structures for councils of deities if I remember right in both 3.5 and 4E.  I know you mentionned you didn't change to 4E but you could poach some stuff from that edition.  Anyway back to the pantheon idea.  Zeus, Athena, Aries, Poseidon, Hades, etc..  I'm sure you could get 8 to fit your needs.

But honestly if your players just answer with "you're just trying to kill us" at anything you throw at them maybe it's time to swap players or change who is the DM.  It sounds like they might have had enough or something.  Taking a break was a good idea, maybe they will have a more positive outlook when you get back together.

Yep, my thoughts exactly but when we get back to it i'd like to have something totaly different that they're not used too. 

I'll have to get my dieties and demi gods out again to look over the greek pantheon i more or less just skiped that portion i didn't really have any interest in playing them in a dnd setting.  

Then i destroy them...