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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:26AM
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So would you buy 5E in its current form?
Feel free to give reasons, but please don't start arguments or long discussions on the topic...
There are other threads for that...
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:27AM
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Currently I wouldn't buy it. Too much like older editions with Linear Fighters and Quadratic Wizards, vancian Wizards, swingy fights that end in TPKs as much as Wizards totally destroying encounters with their spells.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:34AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 22, 2007
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If it were a complete system?
Quite possibly.
But can we make it better as a community?
No doubt.
Brave Knights of W.T.F. Gryphon Helm Winner.
Edition wars kill players, this will kill Dungeons and Dragons.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:41AM
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Right now? No.
But that's because it's incomplete.
Right now I'm content to download the playtest packs, tinker about, etc. In short just watching it develop.
I'll make the final desicion as to wether or not to buy once it's launched.
I'll sit down & read it at the shop or local bookstore.
If it ships sealed in some form? Then I'll download a copy & read it.
If what I read is a steaming pile of poo? I'll put it back on the shelf/delete it.
If it looks OK? Then I'll consider buying it
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:42AM
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I would not buy it. It is missing too many races and classes, and still has a very rough feel. Playing it I clearly have the sense that it is a work in progress, and that isn't something you want to pay money for.
But as Valdark says, as a beginning rough draft initial version (which is what it is), I am very happy. Sure, there is room for improvement, but that is the entire point of this whole open playtest thing.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:43AM
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Currently I wouldn't buy it. Too much like older editions with Linear Fighters and Quadratic Wizards, vancian Wizards, swingy fights that end in TPKs as much as Wizards totally destroying encounters with their spells.
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3rd was a old card that got the job done, but needed a lot of stops at the shop. 4th was a sports car that was in most ways a improvment but still had some cracks in the frame that needed to be fixed. 5th is a new body with no engine, looks good at first but wont take you anywhere you are not already.
Insulting someones grammar on a forum is like losing to someone in a drag race and saying they were cheating by having racing stripes.
Not only do the two things not relate to each other (the logic behind the person's position, and their grammar) but you sound like an idiot for saying it (and you should, because its really stupid )
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:45AM
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I would buy it...but as it stands now, it is still in its early alpha stages. 5e is still in its playtest stage...it's not even a bare skeleton of an edition and it is nowhere near the final publishing stage where it will be released.
Be patient, your favorite stuff might not be in core, but your preferences might come in a module.
I have no problem with the linear fighter-quadratic wizard trope in D&D, and I certainly have no problem with godlike superpowered wizards or Vancian casting in the core system...since I basically like all of those.
Your problems with those things and your suggested solutions may be addressed in a module. You may get what you want in a module or in a alternative form of wizard. In fact, we may BOTH get what we want in this modular format. 5e is still in the early alpha stage.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:51AM
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Maybe the better question is what major features would prevent you from buying it, and two things stick out in my mind.
1. Monster Design
2. Martial Character Design
But it is way to early even to make long lasting judgements on what I have listed.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:52AM
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As it stands now, I wouldn't buy it. The issues with linear Fighters and Quadratic Wizards is one thing, plus I don't like how Fighters are shaping up in general. I loved 4E, but I don't need the 5E fighter to necessarily be exactly like that, though he does need to look something like the Tome of Battle Warblade class, with lots of cool maneuvers and things to make him feel like a competent, super-skilled warrior right from the getgo. This needs to be Core, not another book I have to buy. If it isn't, i'm not buying. We've made too much progress to revert back to the terrible, useless baggage-carrier fresh-off-the-farm meathead Fighter we're seeing right now.
The reason I say it has to be core is simple - anything not in the PHB is easily excluded by a persnickety DM, and there are a great many who feel like anything not in the PHB is power creep, broken, or just not worth considering. I want it in the core, balanced with and alongside the boring Fighter. Not an extra that will get sidelined in short order.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 10:57AM
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I would have bought the first playtest packet--I loved that. This second packet is a travesty--except the fighter. If Combat Superiority started at 2d4 instead of 1d6, it'd be nearly perfect.
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