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10 months ago ::
Aug 30, 2012 - 7:05AM
#31
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Sounds like you joined the wrong group to play with, before you checked on their play style.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 30, 2012 - 3:50PM
#32
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A big NO on PVP. 4e is not made for it. Also, there is a feat anybody can take that prohibits an enemy hit that turn from regaining HP until the next turn. A wizard with that power would destroy. Furthermore, if you try PVP (which I have) it comes down to initiative more than anything else. If you get to go before your opponent, you control.
Finally, players get attached to their characters. PVP is very high-stressed. It is no fun for a character to die, and will create friction and blaming between players.
PVP is the biggest mistake I allowed at my game table.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 30, 2012 - 3:54PM
#33
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Well if you've seen any of my other posts you know my take on power gamers. No need to beat the dead horse.
Come to 4ENCLAVE for a fan based 4th Edition Community. “The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear.” - H. P. Lovecraft Games I Play: - D&D 4e - D&D 3.0 (Not 3.5) - AD&D 2e - Call of Cthulhu
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10 months ago ::
Aug 30, 2012 - 4:23PM
#34
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If a player wants to optimize his character, let him. Why would this be against the rules ever? Some people enjoy playing this way. A couple of people in my group enjoy creating characters more than playing. If that player's character completely outshines the rest of the party, they will let him know that they are not having fun. You can then cross that bridge when you get there.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 30, 2012 - 4:39PM
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If a player wants to optimize his character, let him. Why would this be against the rules ever? Some people enjoy playing this way. A couple of people in my group enjoy creating characters more than playing. If that player's character completely outshines the rest of the party, they will let him know that they are not having fun. You can then cross that bridge when you get there.
I said power gaming, not optimizing. People need to learn the difference.
Come to 4ENCLAVE for a fan based 4th Edition Community. “The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear.” - H. P. Lovecraft Games I Play: - D&D 4e - D&D 3.0 (Not 3.5) - AD&D 2e - Call of Cthulhu
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10 months ago ::
Aug 30, 2012 - 5:02PM
#36
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I agree with you, Felorn, on PowerGaming. The OP is inquiring about a crit-fisher build and min-maxers. My comment was directed at the OP.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 30, 2012 - 10:15PM
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I agree with you, Felorn, on PowerGaming. The OP is inquiring about a crit-fisher build and min-maxers. My comment was directed at the OP.
Ohh alright
Come to 4ENCLAVE for a fan based 4th Edition Community. “The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear.” - H. P. Lovecraft Games I Play: - D&D 4e - D&D 3.0 (Not 3.5) - AD&D 2e - Call of Cthulhu
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10 months ago ::
Aug 30, 2012 - 11:49PM
#38
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If a player wants to optimize his character, let him. Why would this be against the rules ever? Some people enjoy playing this way. A couple of people in my group enjoy creating characters more than playing. If that player's character completely outshines the rest of the party, they will let him know that they are not having fun. You can then cross that bridge when you get there.
I said power gaming, not optimizing. People need to learn the difference.
i'm intrigued to hear how you would define the difference between these two things.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 31, 2012 - 12:33AM
#39
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A power gamer constantly metas.
A power gamer uses personal knowledge and projects it onto his character.
A power gamer plays encounters like chess, taking far too long to complete his turn because he thinks that whatever he chooses, there is a better choice that he is not seeing right now.
A power gamer is a rules lawyer and a big RAI fan...when it suits his/her character.
Pwer gamers are a pain in the @$$. Every group probably knows one.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 31, 2012 - 2:39AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 22, 2011
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Playing encounters like chess has its own kind of fun in a party where everyone likes chess. But yeah, it can get annoying when someone's got a complex build.
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