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Switch to Forum Live View Making a druid a healer? Hybrid maybe?
10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:00AM #1
SpiritsBreath
Date Joined: Apr 19, 2012
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Not sure where best to put this, but is there a way to make a druid a healer in any way? A hybrid I would have to say it would have to be, but all the combinations I can think of don't seem to pair well. Or the way the stats work out just doesn't make it work as good as it should, given being a healer primary. Since I enjoy healing and we are starting over, thanks to not playing in ages, I need a new thing that could work, but can't survive on a at will from a warlord to hit and heal us. 

So  I need help on how to take the parts of a druid and make it into a healer. Especially at level 1. Sure a loophole would be saying I was with a druid ally and being primal and all that I dipped into their ways and could transform for short durations here and there. But theres a feat choice that kicks the rear on that.


So any of those out there, do you have any funtional combos that would let a healer be able to take on forms to do so? I can't figure out the druid (sentinal) thing at all since there isn't much difference besides taking a bear to buff everyones ac by 1. all defenses by 1 via a feat. Which isn't much to keep people alive with.

I suppose in a way I can home brew a lot. Say be a guardian but instead of ac, I get healing ability from constitution and after effects heal or inspire allies in non op ways. A pain to type out and change everything, but thats why I would like to try a more easy to build along the road option. Because we all would like to be able to turn into a bird and pose as a hunters pet. Or be a short class that turns into a huge bear and gets revenge to all who mocked him.

 
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:15AM #2
thespaceinvader
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Sentinel Druid from Heroes of the Forgotten Kingdoms.  It's not very good, but it is a Druid, and it is a healer.

Equally, I'd suggest Hybridding to Cleric or Shaman.  Shaman, in particular, has a WIS/CON build which would dovetail nicely.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:20AM #3
blesper
Date Joined: Jun 1, 2012
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I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you looking for a way to heal while in beast form? If so I'm fairly certain such a method does not exists.

The sentinel druid can be a very effective class, the main diference between it and the regular druid typically being  melee vs ranged. The main use of the animal companion also tends to be to help set up field controll, or aiding allies in their chance to hit your enemies. ( The rogue will love you if your companion is the wolf.) 

You might also try hybriding a druid and a shamna together. They both use the same primary stat, and it would give you access to some healing powers.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:29AM #4
Janx_14
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Back in the days when Hide Armour Expertise let you use CON for AC I made a particularly nasty Shaman/Druid hybrid which had a good deal of both healing, enabling, and control.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:33AM #5
blesper
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Aug 23, 2012 -- 9:29AM, Janx_14 wrote:

Back in the days when Hide Armour Expertise let you use CON for AC I made a particularly nasty Shaman/Druid hybrid which had a good deal of both healing, enabling, and control.




An update that I still am opposed to. It punished more characters than it helped balance.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:33AM #6
SpiritsBreath
Date Joined: Apr 19, 2012
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Fumbling around mostly, but I can try out a cleric or shaman. Same primary stats and wild form is a free will ability. So I can play with that. And the companion could always be handy. Especially since I can pull stuff out of my hat and deny the DM the ability to kill me. 

But I will try out that combo see if I can make it work out for me. I just have to decide what kind of pet to have with me. Bear is noce since extra ac plays a little, but extra damage and the other bonuses I cannot remember. 

Cleric is decent, but its flavor is meh if you become the healbot in scenarios. At the time the dm also had a character. (He now wants to kill us and have no character of his own. The correct way to dm) So I was never the target. 

Anyways, will be off to the builder and see what can hatch up.
 
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:41AM #7
Janx_14
Date Joined: Sep 19, 2007
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Having a character in the party has never stopped my ability to kill party members, or heck, even my own character.


But Hide Armour Expertise was changed because it made the Rageblood barbarian too good. For a single feat they became one of the best AC classes in the game while also having great damage. Now of course they also published the whirling barbarian after, it doesnt have the damage output rageblood does.


Honestly Con shamans should have had Con to AC as a class feature, or feat. HAE still required shamans to jump through hoops as they needed to get hide proficinecy first.     
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:51AM #8
blesper
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I understant the bit about balancing the rageblood barbarian, but it also made swarm druids almost unplayable, and hurt most of the other barbarian builds to a lesser extent.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 10:48AM #9
Janx_14
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Aug 23, 2012 -- 9:51AM, blesper wrote:

I understant the bit about balancing the rageblood barbarian, but it also made swarm druids almost unplayable, and hurt most of the other barbarian builds to a lesser extent.




I had actually forgotten about swarm druids.  

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 1:10PM #10
Salla
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Play a cleric, scratch out the word 'cleric' on top, write in 'druid', reflavor powers as necessary (radiant=sunlight), maybe MC into druid if you really, for some reason, want to Wildshape.
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