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Switch to Forum Live View I hope we see more shardminds in 5E!
9 months ago  ::  Aug 31, 2012 - 9:45AM #31
LordofKhyber
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Aug 29, 2012 -- 11:25PM, Elemental_Elf wrote:

Shardminds would be best served in a Psionic themed book. They should be in DDN but not core.




I really disagree. I think that they are cool enough to make the core books. Psionics has a very large following of D&D players and it really should be core as well.

Things that 5E needs to do:
-Make the use of battlemaps/miniatures the default.
-Make healing fun, magical AND non-magical needs to be an option. Long live the Warlord!
-Make magic items feel magic/mythical. I don't want a dagger +1, I want STING.
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 31, 2012 - 10:03AM #32
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I doubt psionics will be in core right off the bat.  Plus, they're most certainly not the typical D&D standard.  Perhaps the reason why the recent "core" add-ins recieved complaints too, as they were alien (albeit to a lesser degree, and literal degree at that)  So, a psionic book would be good compromise for those off put by their bizarre nature.  And by all means, they deserve to return (They are indeed mad cool)  Also, more psi-races besides Shardminds would be nice too
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 31, 2012 - 10:45AM #33
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Shardminds are like Dragonborn, they could really, really use a more *interesting* name.  We've taken to referring to dragonborn as Dray in our games for instance (that's what they call themselves in the world of Dark Sun).

It's like halflings.  They refer to themselves more properly as 'hobbits' or 'hin'.  That was created by Ed Greenwood for the halflings of the Five Shires, in Basic D&D's Known World.  Eventually carried over into Forgotten Realms (or is it vice-versa?)  

Wouldn't dragonborn or shardminds use proper names when referring to themselves?
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 31, 2012 - 10:56AM #34
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Aug 31, 2012 -- 10:45AM, Artifact wrote:

Shardminds are like Dragonborn, they could really, really use a more *interesting* name.  We've taken to referring to dragonborn as Dray in our games for instance (that's what they call themselves in the world of Dark Sun).

It's like halflings.  They refer to themselves more properly as 'hobbits' or 'hin'.  That was created by Ed Greenwood for the halflings of the Five Shires, in Basic D&D's Known World.  Eventually carried over into Forgotten Realms (or is it vice-versa?)  

Wouldn't dragonborn or shardminds use proper names when referring to themselves?




True, true.  Although, they've proven to be quite the popular niche (within a niche!), but something so unique and exotic would feel a tad odd if it popped up everywhere (via the "everything is core" concept resulting in shoehorning and backlash.)  The idea could work for a subversion like Eberron or an antithesis of vanilla fantasy, but I dunno.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 02, 2012 - 2:27PM #35
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Aug 28, 2012 -- 8:21PM, Melwick wrote:

I hope to see half-elves, the Grey Elf subrace, and half-elemental races as well.



Just curious: How would you differentiate high and grey elves in DDN? The main (mechanical) difference in 3E was that grey elves got an Int bonus, and the high elf already gets that in DDN.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 02, 2012 - 3:26PM #36
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Aug 23, 2012 -- 1:09PM, Crimson_Concerto wrote:

I honestly was not a very big fan of Shard-minds, and I wouldn't mind if they went away forever, but if other people were a fan, I couldn't see the harm in including them. Heck, since one of my players decided to play one, I even came up with the perfect place for them to fit into my homebrew campaign setting.


This. I don't like them, but throw em in!

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 02, 2012 - 3:31PM #37
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Sep 2, 2012 -- 3:26PM, elecgraystone wrote:

Aug 23, 2012 -- 1:09PM, Crimson_Concerto wrote:

I honestly was not a very big fan of Shard-minds, and I wouldn't mind if they went away forever, but if other people were a fan, I couldn't see the harm in including them. Heck, since one of my players decided to play one, I even came up with the perfect place for them to fit into my homebrew campaign setting.


This. I don't like them, but throw em in!




I agree completely.

I always thought their racial background was a bit....lacking, but I'm always for having more options to create unique characters. (I know several people who thoroughly enjoyed the race.)

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 02, 2012 - 3:42PM #38
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Oh god no.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 02, 2012 - 6:00PM #39
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Sep 2, 2012 -- 3:42PM, XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek wrote:

Oh god no.




Why not? People like them. There is no reason to not include them.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 02, 2012 - 6:02PM #40
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Sep 2, 2012 -- 6:00PM, Samrin wrote:

Sep 2, 2012 -- 3:42PM, XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek wrote:

Oh god no.




Why not? People like them. There is no reason to not include them.




With the power of sardonic wit, I shall assume why...



(And no, I'm not a big fan either.  However, we need to approach this from some level of modularity.  At least include them in a psionics book, ya know?)

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