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8 months ago  ::  Oct 18, 2012 - 12:23AM #241
TheBozz
Date Joined: Oct 30, 2011
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I find this topic completely laughable.  I have played 4e for about 3 years now.  I have a co-worker who had tried 4e.  He did not like 4e.  He found it everything everyone has ever said bad about 4e.  So naturally my wife and I got him and his wife to play 4e with us.  After the first session of the game he said he doesn't even know why he gets together with his pathfinder group anymore.  He completely enjoyed the game and it was the most roleplaying I have ever been a part of.  Sometimes people just have to give a game a fair chance and be playing a game with people willing to give it a fair chance.  He admitted that basically his group he tried 4e with was not very receptive to it.  If you can't try something with an open mind you won't like it.  It is like someone who already decided they hate sushi trying sushi.  No matter what if they want to believe they hate sushi they still will after trying it.  They will spit it out and call it gross and say they tried it, but really that was the intention all along.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 18, 2012 - 3:21PM #242
crzyhawk
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2010
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Oct 18, 2012 -- 12:23AM, TheBozz wrote:

I find this topic completely laughable.  I have played 4e for about 3 years now.  I have a co-worker who had tried 4e.  He did not like 4e.  He found it everything everyone has ever said bad about 4e.  So naturally my wife and I got him and his wife to play 4e with us.  After the first session of the game he said he doesn't even know why he gets together with his pathfinder group anymore.  He completely enjoyed the game and it was the most roleplaying I have ever been a part of.  Sometimes people just have to give a game a fair chance and be playing a game with people willing to give it a fair chance.  He admitted that basically his group he tried 4e with was not very receptive to it.  If you can't try something with an open mind you won't like it.  It is like someone who already decided they hate sushi trying sushi.  No matter what if they want to believe they hate sushi they still will after trying it.  They will spit it out and call it gross and say they tried it, but really that was the intention all along.




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8 months ago  ::  Oct 18, 2012 - 3:23PM #243
crzyhawk
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Oct 15, 2012 -- 5:18PM, GreyICE wrote:

Oct 14, 2012 -- 9:12AM, Xguild wrote:

I'm not wondering, I don't expect anything but fans of 4th edition on the 4th edition forums, so its not a suprise, but this is the only place on planet earth where my opinion is a minority.  I just happen to be one of the few D&D fans that has stuck around, the rest are on the Pathfinder forums and have abandoned this franchise quite sometime ago. 



Actually most fans of 4E are busy having lives and playing 4E.  We don't go on the pathfinder forums to troll people playing Pathfinder because they're having fun with their system mastery clunkster and I'm fine with that.  Some people juggle geese.  

Of course I'd note that that bloated monstrosity of a system doesn't seem quite engaging enough for the fans without their perpeptual preaching.  Honestly, it's like talking to a group of scientologists.  Only their religion is probably stupider.




Lol this post is awesome on so many different levels.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 18, 2012 - 3:45PM #244
CorranHornIsAwesome
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Oct 13, 2012 -- 12:54AM, Xguild wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 12:08AM, Zathris wrote:

Oct 10, 2012 -- 11:12AM, Xguild wrote:

Because while mechanics are almost always consistent with description (and there is actually more description than in prior editions), they are not tied to the description.




We must not be reading the same books.



Or maybe you just aren't all that creative, or good at lateral thinking.




Ok your right, I concede, Im not a creative person and there is nothing wrong with 4th edition, the 2nd most popular game on the market that was 1st for 4 decades until this version was released.  Me and the rest of the uncreative people are going to find something else to do now, clearly role-playing isnt for us.
    




I suppose CoD must be a wonderful and innovative game as well? Certainly better than Battlefield or Counterstrike.

Apr 24, 2013 -- 5:56AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

We summoned a devil once.  All we used was the D&D books, too.  It was pretty kwazy.


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Dec 26, 2012 -- 8:51AM, mellored wrote:

Dec 25, 2012 -- 2:37PM, Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote:

Actually, Santa just didn't like you. However, you weren't on the Naughty List, so he had to give you something "better" than coal.

I'd take coal.  Heating your house is expesive, and engery cost arn't going down.

Mabey if i beat enough homeless people, i won't have to be cold this year.



May 10, 2013 -- 4:33PM, YagamiFire wrote:

May 10, 2013 -- 3:34PM, CorranHornIsAwesome wrote:

"Heroes"...I wish I had those. I remember in my first-ever campaign one PC went around shootin all the unconscious baddies in the head to gain Dark Side Points...



Whaaaaaat?!??

Wow...way to waste perfectly good potential slaves.

Er...no wait I mean..uh...something not evil!



(Quotes screwed up on the next one, won't give the poster's name. It's in the Best Lines thread on the D&D forum)


First, an experience from a game I played in a few years back. Our DM didn't like 3.5 as a whole but liked parts of it. So he hands us a big ass rules packet for his modified FR campaign, complete with quotes from important NPC's on the front. I can't remember most of the HRs, just that some how gods like Cyric and Bhaal existed at the same time, despite the obvious problems there. In the end the game became a problem more because of the railroading than the HRs, but it ended with this classic line, after our ranger tried to disarm the strange woman following us WITH HIS BOW: DM: You just killed (insert random noble sounding name here) JP: Was she important? Jack: Dude, she's quoted on the front of the rules packet!


"Why in the wide,wide, world of all things irrational would I help you?
-Daniel Jackson
"Fun will now commence."
-Seven of Nine

Sep 6, 2012 -- 8:29PM, richterbelmont10 wrote:


"Excellent."

-Mr. Burns.


Apr 24, 2013 -- 6:01PM, Hipster_Dog wrote:



Whey is a crotch.




Sep 15, 2008 -- 1:23PM, d20_radio wrote:

Cut the last encounter on your way out after dealing with the Darth. He's the BBEG. Treat him as such. Play up that Darth Revan is THAT much of a badarse. When the shuttle landed, I had no less than 13 JEDI MASTERS step off the shuttle. The PCs were slack-jawed. After the meetup with Bastila (as she's carrying Revan's body), only TWO jedi masters remained with her. Let me tell you, the player whining about not getting to fight Revan himself shut up pretty quickly when he saw that.






Feb 11, 2013 -- 1:09PM, ChainmailJedi wrote:


There's so much you can do with insanity, especially when it has alot of resources.



Sep 22, 2012 -- 3:05PM, TheOneWhoCallCrow wrote:

1. Cleric cast protection from fire on Tank.
2. Tank goes in and get surrounded by enemies.
3. Wizard cast fireball and blows them up.
4. ???
5. Profit

I go by the saying," If it ain't friendly fire then it's not working."

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 19, 2012 - 10:34PM #245
Garthanos
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So this troll poo thread is still around sheeesh

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 19, 2012 - 10:37PM #246
Salla
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Oct 19, 2012 -- 10:34PM, Garthanos wrote:

So this troll poo thread is still around sheeesh




Even their poo regenerates.

Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 6:53AM #247
jalemo124
Date Joined: Aug 9, 2012
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Man I did not intend such an arguement. Truth is there's roleplaying in every game out there if you, even the game "Clue" can have roleplaying. I never said that I didnt think 4E had roleplaying, I just asking what others think roleplaying is for it.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 12:09PM #248
Zardnaar
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The amount of roleplaying in a system is really up to the indivdual group and DM.

 4th ed combat takes longer than other editions so if you have 3-4 encounters a day in 4th ed you will spend more time as a % of your session in combat I suppose. When we played 4th ed we got through 3-5 fights a session I suppose, in 3.XYZ we had a similar number most of the time but the 4th ed ones would take a bit longer. In D&DN the other day we had 15 or so but that was in a pure dungeon hack and cmbat is fast mostly because the monsters are very weak.

 D&D any ediiton has always had a reputation for hackfest anyway so its not exclusive to 4th ed by any means.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*

*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 8:32AM #249
jalemo124
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Oct 19, 2012 -- 10:37PM, Salla wrote:

Oct 19, 2012 -- 10:34PM, Garthanos wrote:

So this troll poo thread is still around sheeesh




Even their poo regenerates.


This wasn't what I had in mind when I started this. I just wanted to see what ppl thought about roleplaying in 4e. truth is you can roleplay in any game, even gold fish use imagination.

Probably going to delet this soon, if possible.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 8:44AM #250
frothsof
Date Joined: Jun 4, 2010
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 8:32AM, jalemo124 wrote:

Oct 19, 2012 -- 10:37PM, Salla wrote:

Oct 19, 2012 -- 10:34PM, Garthanos wrote:

So this troll poo thread is still around sheeesh




Even their poo regenerates.


This wasn't what I had in mind when I started this. I just wanted to see what ppl thought about roleplaying in 4e. truth is you can roleplay in any game, even gold fish use imagination.

Probably going to delet this soon, if possible.




its not your fault. there are a couple of forum posters that basically look for any and all opportunities to badmouth 4e and insult others for liking it. for a bit, the 5e forums held their interest, but sadly they still come around here, and even though they do not play 4e or buy 4e products, they still have nothing better to do with their time than troll the 4e forums. in a way i kind of pity them; i cant imagine being such a loser. that said, you can ask a mod to delete this thread, or at the very least block the trolls for your own sanity's sake.

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