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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2012 - 6:41AM #1
Ronsard101
Date Joined: Mar 27, 2003
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Here's the said power for reference:

   Hypnotic Breath (standard; recharges when first bloodied) ✦    Charm, Sleep
   Close blast 5; +11 vs. Will; the target is dazed (save ends).
   First Failed Save: The target falls unconscious (no save).

I wonder how it works for the uncounscious target. When do he stop being uncounscious?
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2012 - 7:09AM #2
iserith
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Until the target saves.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2012 - 7:10AM #3
Ronsard101
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Aug 17, 2012 -- 7:09AM, iserith wrote:

Until the target saves.



Then why there is the "(no save)" mention ?

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2012 - 7:15AM #4
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The oni night haunter I'm looking at in the compendium says "save ends."
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2012 - 7:26AM #5
Ronsard101
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Oh. I missed the errata then... Sorry and thanks for your help.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 17, 2012 - 11:49AM #6
red_tanker
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The "Bound Oni Night Haunter" still has the 'no save' version.

I'm parsing the intent of the power being "First Failed Save: The target falls asleep (no save). "
because of the line "This attack does not wake the unconscious target. " on Devour Soul. 

Taking damage doesn't break unconciousness, but does break being asleep.  This means that someone put to sleep with this power can be woken with a standard action from an adjacent ally, damage (but not from Devour Soul) or loud noises (perception check from the target).
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