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10 months ago ::
Aug 23, 2012 - 2:02PM
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@ EnglishLanguage - I played the paragon level SPEC mod at GenCon last week. Every DM. I mean at every table, had to cut out one of the encounters because they all ran long. In talking to some of the WOTC people, they acknowledge all of what I said. These are some of the reasons why long-time D&D players have made Pathfinder the top selling RPG on the market - ahead of DnD.
@CorranHornIsAwesome - Yeah, well I do and so do many others. Just because you don't doesn't mean that it isn't. You are right, though. It isn't played PBP much because it's unplayable that way. Most gamers who do PBP play 3.5 or Pathfinder.
These are some of the reasons that the game needs to be fixed. I believe that it can be fixed with little negative impact to those of you who like 4e.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 23, 2012 - 2:06PM
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@Neptune0923: without entering the merit of your comments, they are off topic in the discussion here. Please open your own thread if you want to debate about those subjects.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 23, 2012 - 2:31PM
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@ EnglishLanguage - I played the paragon level SPEC mod at GenCon last week. Every DM. I mean at every table, had to cut out one of the encounters because they all ran long.
And I'm trying to figure out what the hell people are doing to stretch encoutners like that.
Saturday for example
5 Level 21 Characters
4 Level+x minions
about 5 level+x standards
Took about 50 minutes. I've never had a Paragon level encounter run above 35 minutes. I'm completely baffled where people keep pulling 3-4 hours from.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 23, 2012 - 3:39PM
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@CorranHornIsAwesome - Yeah, well I do and so do many others. Just because you don't doesn't mean that it isn't. You are right, though. It isn't played PBP much because it's unplayable that way. Most gamers who do PBP play 3.5 or Pathfinder.
These are some of the reasons that the game needs to be fixed. I believe that it can be fixed with little negative impact to those of you who like 4e.
I never said that me not playing PbP 4e didn't make it hard-but it's doable, there are dozens or more 4e PbP games running now on various websites. Almost certainly more. Lots of other systems have ways you can interrupt someone. To take an example from my own background, in Star Wars SAGA people ready actions quite frequenltly which have a trigger. At the trigger, they interrupt whatever the triggerer is doing. I guess that makes SAGA broken. Really, though, if you don't like 4e, go play 3.5 or Pathfinder already. As opposed to wasting our time on a 4e board.
EnglishLanguage, it's because you're better than him at 4e. Yup, I said it. 
We summoned a devil once. All we used was the D&D books, too. It was pretty kwazy.
God of Arrested Development and Intelligence 
Resident Left Hand of Stalin and Banana Stand Grandstander
Pie-Cooling-On-A-Windowsill of the House of Trolls
In the morning HK'll be sober but you'll still be a meatbag.
I know I misspell "Danke" in my posts. It's an inside joke.
"Ten cents gets you nuts." -George Michael
Spoiler:
Show
''Being president is like running a cemetery: you've got a lot of people under you and nobody's listening.''
—Bill Clinton
You are not a moral man. There are not enough middle fingers in the world for you.
Why do I get a silly PG-13 man giggle
going everytime I see Fist Of The Forest ?
Actually, Santa just didn't like you. However, you weren't on the Naughty List, so he had to give you something "better" than coal.
I'd take coal. Heating your house is expesive, and engery cost arn't going down.
Mabey if i beat enough homeless people, i won't have to be cold this year. 
"Heroes"...I wish I had those. I remember in my first-ever campaign one PC went around shootin all the unconscious baddies in the head to gain Dark Side Points...
Whaaaaaat?!??
Wow...way to waste perfectly good potential slaves.
Er...no wait I mean..uh...something not evil!
(Quotes screwed up on the next one, won't give the poster's name. It's in the Best Lines thread on the D&D forum)
First, an experience from a game I played in a few years back. Our DM didn't like 3.5 as a whole but liked parts of it. So he hands us a big ass rules packet for his modified FR campaign, complete with quotes from important NPC's on the front. I can't remember most of the HRs, just that some how gods like Cyric and Bhaal existed at the same time, despite the obvious problems there. In the end the game became a problem more because of the railroading than the HRs, but it ended with this classic line, after our ranger tried to disarm the strange woman following us WITH HIS BOW: DM: You just killed (insert random noble sounding name here) JP: Was she important? Jack: Dude, she's quoted on the front of the rules packet!
"Why in the wide,wide, world of all things irrational would I help you?
-Daniel Jackson
"Fun will now commence."
-Seven of Nine
"Excellent."
-Mr. Burns.
Whey is a crotch.
Cut the last encounter on your way out after dealing with the Darth. He's the BBEG. Treat him as such. Play up that Darth Revan is THAT much of a badarse. When the shuttle landed, I had no less than 13 JEDI MASTERS step off the shuttle. The PCs were slack-jawed. After the meetup with Bastila (as she's carrying Revan's body), only TWO jedi masters remained with her. Let me tell you, the player whining about not getting to fight Revan himself shut up pretty quickly when he saw that. 
There's so much you can do with insanity, especially when it has alot of resources.
1. Cleric cast protection from fire on Tank.
2. Tank goes in and get surrounded by enemies.
3. Wizard cast fireball and blows them up.
4. ???
5. Profit
I go by the saying," If it ain't friendly fire then it's not working."
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