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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 2:48PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 14, 2010
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I want to build a Bard because I like the flavor, but since I dislike long combats I want to focus on enabling allies to make more attacks and make more accurate and damaging attacks. The class is pretty wide-open so I'm looking for advice on how to proceed.
The build has to meet these prerequisites:
- Human or human-like race (for example deva)
- Focus on ranged weapon and implement attacks (so no Valor and Warchanter)
This is what I've been thinking about so far:
- Virtue of Prescience for Rhyme of the Bloodseeking Blade, Karmic Shaper and an encounter feature that lets me save an ally from a hit (heroic) or turn a miss into a hit and grant a basic attack (paragon).
- Echoing Weapon and Staggering Note for a sort-of double attack opening move each fight.
Is this a good way to go, or are there better ways to create Warlord-like Bards?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 2:52PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2010
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That's basically the way, yeah.
The best enabling bard IMHO is the War Chanter, though, so Valourous all the way if you're expecting to last long enough to make that work. +6/+6 for most of most combats >>>> granting attacks. It's even better when you can do both.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 2:57PM
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Echoing Songblade dagger gives you a ranged weapon :D
This is CharOp. We not only assume block-of-tofu monsters, but also block-of-tofu DMs.
One reach cheese'd threatening reach Spiked Chain shuts down any non-teleporting quarterback.
You're already refluffing, what not refluff to something that doesn't suck?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 3:16PM
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Of course, Cunning Bards are great at enabling allies who have Agile Opportunist, but that's party-dependent.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 3:49PM
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A Half-Elf Valorous Bard MC Warlord/Sidhe Lord/War Chanter/Warmaster is pretty awesome. You mainly take Sidhe Lord for the amazing level 2 utility which lets you take an action point from an ally and grant that ally a standard action. Since you can spend 2 AP's per encounter and grant huge damage buffs and extra actions when you spend an AP thanks to War Chanter and Warmaster, this build is awesome for enabling starting at level 11+.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 3:59PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 14, 2010
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So I could basically be a Valorous bard for the PP, ignore all the melee powers in favor of ranged weapon and implement stuff, and just go nuts with War Chanter and attack granting every encounter? Feels a little silly, but then War Chanter is a silly paragon path so I guess it makes sense.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 7:07PM
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You're Valorous moral support, right behind the guys doing the heavy lifting.
This is CharOp. We not only assume block-of-tofu monsters, but also block-of-tofu DMs.
One reach cheese'd threatening reach Spiked Chain shuts down any non-teleporting quarterback.
You're already refluffing, what not refluff to something that doesn't suck?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 8:11PM
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MUSH! MUSH! Also: This if it'll help at all. Had some help from some of the more brilliant minds here in CharOp over some Warchanter questions.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 8:52PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2011
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I've had a build I've been playing for a long time, never posted it:
Valor Bard/War Chanter/Eternal Seeker
MC Cleric, Warlord, Shaman
Dilletante for Magic Weapon (later for eldtrich strike)
Horde APs as much as possible (Heroic Interjection, Vistani Foresight, Symbol of Victory)
Then use Hail of Steel, Spirit of the Ram, and Valorous charge all the time for funsies.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 9:23PM
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I've had a build I've been playing for a long time, never posted it:
Valor Bard/War Chanter/Eternal Seeker
MC Cleric, Warlord, Shaman
Dilletante for Magic Weapon (later for eldtrich strike)
Horde APs as much as possible (Heroic Interjection, Vistani Foresight, Symbol of Victory)
Then use Hail of Steel, Spirit of the Ram, and Valorous charge all the time for funsies.
Nice. I assume you're going to poach the lvl 24 Warmaster feature with Eternal Seeker?
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