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9 months ago ::
Sep 06, 2012 - 4:07PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 24, 2007
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Isn't all of this solved by playing an elven STR based fighter instead of DEX based?
If you are playing DEX based, stick to finesse weapons. Nobody's shoving a longsword into your hands.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 06, 2012 - 8:23PM
#42
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Jun 22, 2012
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You gain proficiency with the weapon types listed,if you would be proficient due to other means,you instead increase the damage die by one
I think that's a good way to do it. I do think elves should either be given the bonus to finesse weapons, or allowed to use Dex with longswords, too. I've always thought of elves as nimble and dexterous, so if the longsword stays, they should be able to use dex.
this makes no sense.
A weapon being able to be used with finesse comes down to the weapons design itself (length, size, weight...)
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9 months ago ::
Sep 07, 2012 - 9:32PM
#43
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Jun 11, 2012
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For what it's worth, in previous editions (one of the 3's) Elven proficiency was with longsword OR rapier, and my friends and I have kept it that way since. It really makes the most sense to have the pair of options (altough a cleric MIGHT tend more to longsword cuz of Corellon).
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9 months ago ::
Sep 08, 2012 - 7:57PM
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I say let elves use Dex or Str for longswords without saying its finessable and call it day. They gain good reasons to use the weapons that match their history, and there isn't any worry about two-weapon fighting with dual longswords.
I definately do not want to see elves using rapiers as the defacto racial weapon, I'd much rather the mechanics be altered to make the history work.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 08, 2012 - 8:01PM
#45
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Drow - Longsword/Crossbows
High Elves - Longsword/Bows
Wood Elves - Rapiers/Bows
Drow - 1-handed finessable swords and whips and hand Crossbow
This covers swords for fighter types, whips for clerics, and hand crossbows for all. Even the drow arcane guard can keep his spiked chain.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 09, 2012 - 12:23AM
#46
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Date Joined:
Jan 21, 2004
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I say let elves use Dex or Str for longswords without saying its finessable and call it day. They gain good reasons to use the weapons that match their history, and there isn't any worry about two-weapon fighting with dual longswords.
I definately do not want to see elves using rapiers as the defacto racial weapon, I'd much rather the mechanics be altered to make the history work.
+1
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9 months ago ::
Sep 09, 2012 - 9:03AM
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May 29, 2008
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I actually feel simply adding rapier to the list (for elves) works best... Most will end up using a short bow and a rapier, with their fighters using a longbow and longsword... Clean, simple... Let's not forget... Only Elven fighters get to use a longbow... THE weapon that seems most iconic to the race... Just my (revised) 2 cents...
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9 months ago ::
Sep 10, 2012 - 6:47AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 19, 2007
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I'm seriously considering creating an "Elven longsword" that is made by Elven smiths, and designed to be used as either a Str or Dex weapon. That would be the default Elven "longsword" proficiency. End of problem.
In memory of wrecan and his Unearthed Wrecana.5e should strongly stay away from "I don't like it, so you can't have it either."
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