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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 7:24PM #21
YamiVegeta
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Aug 20, 2012 -- 5:52AM, JaeMi wrote:

Wait. On page two of the "Classes" pdf under "Orisons" it says "You know one minor spell, chosen from the cleric's spell list."

Does this mean they changed it?




No that hasn't changed, we were talking about Spells though not the minor spells. I understand the confusion there but thankyou for pointing that out either way.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 8:06PM #22
LEaught
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Clerics' access to the whole spell list in 3.5 was balanced by the fact that divine spells were generally worse or more limited than arcane.  If you could have your pick of lunch meats or choose from three cuts of steak...   
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 8:11PM #23
JaeMi
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Aug 20, 2012 -- 7:24PM, YamiVegeta wrote:



No that hasn't changed, we were talking about Spells though not the minor spells. I understand the confusion there but thankyou for pointing that out either way.




What I mean is that it seems to say "you [only] know one minor spell", and not the entire spell list.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 8:13PM #24
Yuwain
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Aug 20, 2012 -- 8:11PM, JaeMi wrote:

Aug 20, 2012 -- 7:24PM, YamiVegeta wrote:



No that hasn't changed, we were talking about Spells though not the minor spells. I understand the confusion there but thankyou for pointing that out either way.




What I mean is that it seems to say "you [only] know one minor spell", and not the entire spell list.




wizards get this too, although for them it means they have to travel all over the world to find the spells to put into their books.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 8:49PM #25
JaeMi
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So then how do clerics learn new spells?
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 10:38PM #26
YamiVegeta
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Aug 20, 2012 -- 8:49PM, JaeMi wrote:

So then how do clerics learn new spells?




They don't really thats what we have been dicussing. A cleric unlike a Wizard "knows" all their spells when they are able to cast them, they then prepare what exact spells for that day they want to use.

So they "have" their whole lists to draw from and thats was part of the discussions too.

As for Minor Spells a cleric gains one to begin with and one more at 5th and 9th levels but you also get them from like your cleric domain and such too. 

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 11:46PM #27
JaeMi
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Oh I see! I was wondering why the PreGen Human Cleric had four orisons, but then I realised Initiate of the Faith granted two, the domain granted one, and the fourth is the chosen one you start off with.

Thanks for clarifying.
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