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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:12PM #11
Alcestis
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Aug 10, 2012 -- 12:08PM, zelink551 wrote:

Do enemies spend surges? I don't think I've ever seen it save some evil DMPCs


Monsters have 1/2/3 surges (per tier). Also applies to, say, mounts.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:12PM #12
seanaust
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Oversized mm race.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:13PM #13
zelink551
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I knew they had surges, I was merely saying do they SPEND them, since I've never seen it happen.
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:14PM #14
DarthPotater
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Dont forget adroit explorer, the only PP that lets you use an encounter power 2 times.
Sapphire - Swormage Dragon Guardian - Dont touch my allies build. Swordmage / Sigil Carver / Draconic incarnation
The Holy Slayer - A Striker - Defender Fighter | Cleric / Barbarian - Paragon of Victory
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:14PM #15
Alcestis
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Aug 10, 2012 -- 12:13PM, zelink551 wrote:

I knew they had surges, I was merely saying do they SPEND them, since I've never seen it happen.


Sure they do. Monsters retreat to bring reinforcements and get a short rest. I think there are even a couple of LFR modules where that can happen.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:17PM #16
seanaust
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@darth Doesnt student of the seven?
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:19PM #17
zelink551
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Only when you spend an AP
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:20PM #18
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Mul 2nd wind support is pretty nifty too, even if it's different than dwarf support. The ability to surgelessly get a surge's worth of THP is pretty badass, particularly if you have a way to spend your second wind as a non-standard action.

Dragonborn I'd add in Draconic Arrogance - adding extra damage to every push or prone effect is pretty nice.

For Elves, Sense Threat and Reactive Stealth are harder to duplicate than Elven Accuracy is.

Thri-Kreen and Bladelings have mostly bad support, but have some of the best racial minor action attacks in game. With support, some of the genasi attacks can get better though (and dragonbreath is pretty awesome.).

Eladrin Blink-Knights may be worth mentioning. Not necessarily optimal, but it does require Eladrin.

Dragonborn and Dwarves (with a feat) can add their conmod to their surge value.

Bugbears can wield oversized weapons. 
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:25PM #19
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Aug 10, 2012 -- 12:14PM, DarthPotater wrote:

Dont forget adroit explorer, the only PP that lets you use an encounter power 2 times.




Devout warpriest does this too with divine resurgance, but it has to be a warpriest power.

Radiant recovery for Deva (though non-devas can take deva heritage).  Shared Channeling is also fairly unique.  Lets allies use your channel divinity powers that effect you so the laser cleric can let his barbarian ally use righteous rage of tempus.

Changling for fickle servant.

Shadar Kai for ghostly rejuvention.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 12:30PM #20
DarthPotater
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Githzerai can give you WIS instead of CON for surges and surge value (Zuoken's Centering). This is very unique.

Devas have soul of the world ED and battle intuition.

Humans can pick an at-will power in some essential classes with no at-wills.
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The Holy Slayer - A Striker - Defender Fighter | Cleric / Barbarian - Paragon of Victory
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