Dude, it's hard enough to find jeans that fit my waist. If I held out for jeans that also went all the way down to my ankles while sitting on a cruiser I would never have pants to wear.
In other news, I got my first "I want to sit on your bike" girl today. I may have to get a rainbow sticker to slap on it to dissuade such things.
Dude, it's hard enough to find jeans that fit my waist. If I held out for jeans that also went all the way down to my ankles while sitting on a cruiser I would never have pants to wear.In other news, I got my first "I want to sit on your bike" girl
Dude, it's hard enough to find jeans that fit my waist. If I held out for jeans that also went all the way down to my ankles while sitting on a cruiser I would never have pants to wear.
I mean... what?
In other news, I got my first "I want to sit on your bike" girl today. I may have to get a rainbow sticker to slap on it to dissuade such things.
hmmmm maybe i should invest in a bike.
:cloud9:I mean... what?hmmmm maybe i should invest in a bike.
Dude, it's hard enough to find jeans that fit my waist. If I held out for jeans that also went all the way down to my ankles while sitting on a cruiser I would never have pants to wear.
In other news, I got my first "I want to sit on your bike" girl today. I may have to get a rainbow sticker to slap on it to dissuade such things.
Do it! Either that or keep your pimp hand strong!
:rofl:Do it!Either that or keep your pimp hand strong!
I got weird looks from lots of people as I was driving home from grocery shopping today, rocking out to this song. Don't care. This song rocks.
I got weird looks from lots of people as I was driving home from grocery shopping today, rocking out to this song. Don't care. This song :censored: rocks.
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So, I got my younger brother for Pollyanna this year. I'm totally getting him a TMNT hoodie. I just need to subtly find out which one was his favorite. I think it's Michelangelo, but it also might be Rafael.
I really lucked out on this one! :-)
So, I got my younger brother for Pollyanna this year. I'm totally getting him a TMNT hoodie. I just need to subtly find out which one was his favorite. I think it's Michelangelo, but it also might be Rafael. I really lucked out on this one! :-)
Turns out I have 5 vacation days left. Took the 31st off. Don't have a lot of options cuz of availability requirements but that's ok. Way more time than I thought.
Turns out I have 5 vacation days left. Took the 31st off. Don't have a lot of options cuz of availability requirements but that's ok. Way more time than I thought.
Turns out I have 5 vacation days left. Took the 31st off. Don't have a lot of options cuz of availability requirements but that's ok. Way more time than I thought.
Turns out I have to write 9 pages worth of research paper before class tomorrow. Being sick all last week (still kinda sick) has sucked hard. I more or less already have all the sources I'll need so at this point its all about writing more or less. I figure if I can actually focus today I can have it finished by the time i go to bed if I get about 1 page every 2 hours written. Anyways off to write me some junks.
Turns out I have to write 9 pages worth of research paper before class tomorrow. Being sick all last week (still kinda sick) has sucked hard. I more or less already have all the sources I'll need so at this point its all about writing more or less. I
Turns out I have to write 9 pages worth of research paper before class tomorrow. Being sick all last week (still kinda sick) has sucked hard. I more or less already have all the sources I'll need so at this point its all about writing more or less. I figure if I can actually focus today I can have it finished by the time i go to bed if I get about 1 page every 2 hours written. Anyways off to write me some junks.
I am so glad I'm done with that crap... now I just have to write technical reports
I am so glad I'm done with that crap... now I just have to write technical reports:surrender:
I'd probably be more fine with that, cuz im basically writing about stuff im workin with or whatever and know about whether or not i like it. with this junk i got to research and write about something i have less than zero interest in all so that i can become a more well rounded individual so that i can graduate with a degree that has nothing to do with the subject of any of the papers i have to write.
a waste of time for me but a way that the school and the department this class is in make money.
and yeah schools say general ed is to make students more well rounded and junk, which is just bs. its not. the truth is that without it most departments in the school would not be able to sustain themselves and so would fold financially unless supported by the school or something else.
I'd probably be more fine with that, cuz im basically writing about stuff im workin with or whatever and know about whether or not i like it. with this junk i got to research and write about something i have less than zero interest in all so that i c
huh. looking at citing work and junk and like with the intext citing you put a reference to what work its from and page or location. problem im having is a cited something from a page that was before the official 1st page but the pages before the first are not numbered.
hmmmmmm not sure what to do
huh. looking at citing work and junk and like with the intext citing you put a reference to what work its from and page or location. problem im having is a cited something from a page that was before the official 1st page but the pages before the fir
huh. looking at citing work and junk and like with the intext citing you put a reference to what work its from and page or location. problem im having is a cited something from a page that was before the official 1st page but the pages before the first are not numbered.
hmmmmmm not sure what to do
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc? I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that... But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc?I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that...But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...
huh. looking at citing work and junk and like with the intext citing you put a reference to what work its from and page or location. problem im having is a cited something from a page that was before the official 1st page but the pages before the first are not numbered.
hmmmmmm not sure what to do
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc? I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that... But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...
nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont know if i should number them like that myself or just leave it blank or what. whoa
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc?I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that...But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...[/quote]nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont kn
huh. looking at citing work and junk and like with the intext citing you put a reference to what work its from and page or location. problem im having is a cited something from a page that was before the official 1st page but the pages before the first are not numbered.
hmmmmmm not sure what to do
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc? I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that... But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...
nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont know if i should number them like that myself or just leave it blank or what. whoa
Hmmmm... Sorry I can't help you. I have no idea what to do. Ask some hawt chick in your class! Even if she don't know, it's a conversation starter!
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc?I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that...But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...[/quote]nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont kn
That's my main gripe with college, actually. They make you pay to take classes you don't want to that'll be less than useless in your planned career. It's stupid and the fact that they choose to hide the obvious money grab behind a (very thin) veil of 'student betterment through varied exposure' is really, really agitating. And it's even worse for me. I mean, I can almost understand it when we're talking about an 18 year old kid what never had a job. Sure, they could possibly discover a career path they never considered when they take some oddball class. Like, maybe. There's probably no way someone is gonna decide to major in Early English Lit if they were considering an engineering path, yanno? Anyhoo, peeps like me are totally boned by this. I have a career in a specified field and I like what I do. To get papers, though, I will have to take all the same BS classes some clueless 18 year old will. Why? What benefit will college Spanish serve me in my technical career? How will some history class benefit me? It's such a waste of time and money. The only saving grace is that Associate Degrees (which also tend to offer certification) don't typically require much of that crap - er, at least not much more than I've already taken. Still, it makes me hate the idea of going back. A lot.
If I wanna be a doctor and I know that, learning about ancient Chinese art will not benefit me. In fact, it will hurt me by distracting me from studies that will actually benefit me in the real world. That's not to say there's no place for those sort of classes, it's only to say if I'm paying to learn doctorhood, I shouldn't be forced to pay for classes that won't do anything positive for me in my path to that goal or when I'm actually in the doctoring business.
That's my main gripe with college, actually. They make you pay to take classes you don't want to that'll be less than useless in your planned career. It's stupid and the fact that they choose to hide the obvious money grab behind a (very thin) veil
huh. looking at citing work and junk and like with the intext citing you put a reference to what work its from and page or location. problem im having is a cited something from a page that was before the official 1st page but the pages before the first are not numbered.
hmmmmmm not sure what to do
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc? I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that... But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...
nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont know if i should number them like that myself or just leave it blank or what. whoa
Use "n. pag." (no quotes) where you'd normally have page numbers to indicate unnumbered pages.
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc?I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that...But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...[/quote]nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont kn
That's my main gripe with college, actually. They make you pay to take classes you don't want to that'll be less than useless in your planned career. It's stupid and the fact that they choose to hide the obvious money grab behind a (very thin) veil of 'student betterment through varied exposure' is really, really agitating. And it's even worse for me. I mean, I can almost understand it when we're talking about an 18 year old kid what never had a job. Sure, they could possibly discover a career path they never considered when they take some oddball class. Like, maybe. There's probably no way someone is gonna decide to major in Early English Lit if they were considering an engineering path, yanno? Anyhoo, peeps like me are totally boned by this. I have a career in a specified field and I like what I do. To get papers, though, I will have to take all the same BS classes some clueless 18 year old will. Why? What benefit will college Spanish serve me in my technical career? How will some history class benefit me? It's such a waste of time and money. The only saving grace is that Associate Degrees (which also tend to offer certification) don't typically require much of that crap - er, at least not much more than I've already taken. Still, it makes me hate the idea of going back. A lot.
If I wanna be a doctor and I know that, learning about ancient Chinese art will not benefit me. In fact, it will hurt me by distracting me from studies that will actually benefit me in the real world. That's not to say there's no place for those sort of classes, it's only to say if I'm paying to learn doctorhood, I shouldn't be forced to pay for classes that won't do anything positive for me in my path to that goal or when I'm actually in the doctoring business.
only way i know of to avoid that stuff is to either go to a trade school or go back to school in some super awesome field and be able to get accepted into a phd or masters program without finishing your bs/ba but that road is probably easier if you've gotten some sort of equivalent degree in the past even if you dont meet general ed requierments at this time.
but yeah its all bs and junk.
as a physics major i can understand needing to take some bio and chem. maybe even an english course or two to have some basic skills for writing papers that i'd likely have to write during my carrier. but like why all the other stuff that takes up more than half of my college carrier? doesn't make sense.
I've been in college since 05 and im sick of it. Been in school nonstop with no break since I was about 5 or something. So yeah like 20 years of my life going to classes day in and day out. Haven't really had anything more than a couple part time jobs. So far I've learned some cool math and science but dont know how to look for a job. A friend and ex class mate came back to town from his masters program thingy in Oregan at UO. He's like one of the best things about their program is all they really do is prep you for getting a job. Like teach you how to interview and blah blah blah. like they teach you some science but a lot of it is about how to get a job. like that's probably way way more useful than the last 7 years i've had of schooling. but aparently schools done teach how to be useful in the work force or even how to become a part of it until you get to a masters or phd. before that you just gotta hope you're doing it right. lol
only way i know of to avoid that stuff is to either go to a trade school or go back to school in some super awesome field and be able to get accepted into a phd or masters program without finishing your bs/ba but that road is probably easier if you'v
huh. looking at citing work and junk and like with the intext citing you put a reference to what work its from and page or location. problem im having is a cited something from a page that was before the official 1st page but the pages before the first are not numbered.
hmmmmmm not sure what to do
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc? I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that... But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...
nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont know if i should number them like that myself or just leave it blank or what. whoa
Use "n. pag." (no quotes) where you'd normally have page numbers to indicate unnumbered pages.
Thanks broseph!
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc?I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that...But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...[/quote]nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont kn
huh. looking at citing work and junk and like with the intext citing you put a reference to what work its from and page or location. problem im having is a cited something from a page that was before the official 1st page but the pages before the first are not numbered.
hmmmmmm not sure what to do
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc? I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that... But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...
nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont know if i should number them like that myself or just leave it blank or what. whoa
Use "n. pag." (no quotes) where you'd normally have page numbers to indicate unnumbered pages.
is that supposed to stand for no page number?
Is the page "numbered" by i, ii, etc?I seem to rememeber being able to cite things like that...But hell, I went to college with Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble...[/quote]nope its not and thats kinda what i mean by not being numbered. Like i dont kn
Another option is to use Roman numerals, even if they are not printed on the pages. Which you use depends largely on the school you're in. Many have specific citation requirements. You shouldn't have too much trouble finding them in your school's online database.
Another option is to use Roman numerals, even if they are not printed on the pages. Which you use depends largely on the school you're in. Many have specific citation requirements. You shouldn't have too much trouble finding them in your school's onl
dont feel like looking cuz im dong this super last minute. just gonna go with one and doubt he'll care too much. he's a strict teacher but so far this semester hasn't come off as one of those teachers that will dock you a whole letter grade because you had a coma in the wrong spot or the formatting is slightly off. i can understand for something like a senior project or masters/phd type work but most teachers i have seen dont care about some of this stuff for papers in their class. like everyone's paper will formatted a slight bit differently and dont get marked off for it and junk
dont feel like looking cuz im dong this super last minute. just gonna go with one and doubt he'll care too much. he's a strict teacher but so far this semester hasn't come off as one of those teachers that will dock you a whole letter grade because y
*shrug* I support a liberal arts education, because I believe that it is important to diversify your knowledge and that learning other subjects, even beyond the subjects themselves, helps you to learn to think differently. While I think the subjects have value, I also think that you learn difference processes and ways of thinking when you study different subjects.
But I have a BFA, so feel free to disregard my opinion.
Also: citations/footnotes are annoying.
*shrug* I support a liberal arts education, because I believe that it is important to diversify your knowledge and that learning other subjects, even beyond the subjects themselves, helps you to learn to think differently. While I think the subjects
From interacting with different majors from what I've seen is students in physics, engineering and math tend to have developed reasoning and learning skills and come up with many different processes to go about both areas. And because of this can transfer and apply such to other fields with ease such as the more liberal arts and whatnot. Where as people I've come across from the liberal arts seem to have quite a sub standard ability to do much of this. Like this is expected of them to start developing at around the point the graduate or get a post grad degree. But for the three majors i listed above this is expected of students at like sophomore to junior level. Like if you dont have it by the time you get to upper division studies you are going to have a tough time, and with at least from the professors at CSUS developing such skills is highly pushed.
I've only come across one of my general ed teachers that has done the same. That is for this class im writing the research paper for. For most of the rest of them they just seem to care or such higher level of thinking or analysis doesn't seem to be all that important. Or maybe its something they stress more in their major specific upper division courses so like i wouldn't see it ever.
I guess what I'm saying is most people in college don't impress me at all intellectually speaking at least. Forcing them to take a few extra classes I dont think will help them out at all either. Especially when it seems a vast majority of students are practically cheating their way through school. Obviously they dont want to learn or get smarter. They just want the degree. Ya know da bling.
From interacting with different majors from what I've seen is students in physics, engineering and math tend to have developed reasoning and learning skills and come up with many different processes to go about both areas. And because of this can tr
It's been doing that to me all day. Funny thing is, it's there after I submit the post and goes away afterward. Happened to me "in group" as well. I blame these wonderful forums.
It's been doing that to me all day.Funny thing is, it's there after I submit the post and goes away afterward.Happened to me "in group" as well.I blame these wonderful forums.
Hrm... at my school I think I had to take College English I and II (mostly just about writing papers since everyone has to write papers, no matter what their field is) and then Technical Writing (again, because everyone has to write technical documents).
The only other "liberal arts" stuff we had to take was 6 credit hours of a social science, 6 credits of a humanities, and then 3 credits of either. I bagged that with psychology and philosophy.
But all together, I think my required non-science and non-engineering credits totalled something like 24 credit hours, not even a fifth of my total required credits.
My school did, however, required that everyone complete Calc I and II, Chemistry I and II (with labs) and Physics I and II (with labs), with a requirement that you also finish 8 credit hours (2 being lab hours) of some other engineering/science (most got this covered by their major regardless).
But the bulk of my credit hours were in Comp Sci and Information Technology (they largely were cross-listed but some weren't). I did finish up a few more math courses (probability and statistics mostly).
So if you're going for a hard science or engineering degree but half your time is wasted on fine arts stuff... you're at the wrong school.
Hrm... at my school I think I had to take College English I and II (mostly just about writing papers since everyone has to write papers, no matter what their field is) and then Technical Writing (again, because everyone has to write technical documen
Yeah maybe. Well actually its just CSUS. for quite a while they've been adding in more and more general ed requirements at bother lower and upper division levels. They even have some requirements that are school specific so if you transfer into the school you still have general ed you gotta take and junk. the amusing thing is that some majors have way too many units now, such as all the sciences, and so the school has tried asking them to cut back classes for those majors cuz like you can't cut back general ed requirements cuz that cuts back money for all departments. so yeah school has been trying to get the science departments to can as many of their classes (by combining them in some cases) so that the unit count for science majors can be reduced down so they can get out in a much shorter time.
Cus at CSUS its like 3 years of general ed classes about and then like a years worth of upper division courses or whatnot that are major related. But for the sciences without taking full summer and winter courses each year that is about 2-3 years worth or more courses to take. Like for instance in order to get a BS in physics I'm about 2 courses away from a minor in chem, 1 from a minor in math (depending on route) a class or two from a minor in bio and if you decide to take the astronomy based writing intensive course for general ed req then only 2 courses from a minor in astronomy. So if i cut like 1 semester of GE out and replace it with other courses i could leave the college with a BS in physics and like 4-5 minors. And this is pretty much the case with most the science degrees on campus, which is not the case for basically no other degree on campus.
Yeah maybe. Well actually its just CSUS. for quite a while they've been adding in more and more general ed requirements at bother lower and upper division levels. They even have some requirements that are school specific so if you transfer into the s
*shrug* I support a liberal arts education, because I believe that it is important to diversify your knowledge and that learning other subjects, even beyond the subjects themselves, helps you to learn to think differently. While I think the subjects have value, I also think that you learn difference processes and ways of thinking when you study different subjects.
But I have a BFA, so feel free to disregard my opinion.
Also: citations/footnotes are annoying.
I think, as I said, that it's ok for a lot of kids right out of HS. Most don't really know what they want to be or, if they do, have a poor understanding of what that would actually entail. A little variety here and there very well could be of benefit to them. However, for an engineer or a doctor wannabe, those extra classes are worse than useless. They distract from the studies the kid actually needs to be what they've chosen to be. I dunno about you, but I'd feel a lot safer with a doctor that spent all his or her time studying doctor stuff than I would with one who had to struggle through Spanish, Lit and Art Appreciation while also trying to learn doctor stuff. If the class will be of no real benefit it should not be required for graduation. Let them study what will actually help them do what they want to do. It just makes sense.
And, again, you have adults who want to go back to school who will be subjected to the same crap some clueless 18 year old will be. What's the benefit to me if I have to take some art class? I'm an IT professional. What the hell is that gonna do for me but waste my time and money? But distract me from classes that I actually need and may have trouble with? I know how to budget my time. I know how to handle more than one problem at once. I mean, it's no small part of what I do for a living. Oh, and I also know what I want to do for a living. Art has nothing to do with it. Surprisingly, neither does lit even though I read like an addict. All those extra classes do for me is turn me off of going back. It makes the idea of college seem ... I dunno, somewhat fake.
Additionally, most people attain diversity of knowledge on their own. I did. I mean, I have hobbies. I read. I don't need to pay someone to tell me about different stuff. I really, really don't want to pay someone to tell me about different stuff I don't have any interest in and the idea of being forced to pay someone to do it is, well, I'm sure you get the picture by now.
Hrm... at my school I think I had to take College English I and II (mostly just about writing papers since everyone has to write papers, no matter what their field is) and then Technical Writing (again, because everyone has to write technical documents).
The only other "liberal arts" stuff we had to take was 6 credit hours of a social science, 6 credits of a humanities, and then 3 credits of either. I bagged that with psychology and philosophy.
But all together, I think my required non-science and non-engineering credits totalled something like 24 credit hours, not even a fifth of my total required credits.
My school did, however, required that everyone complete Calc I and II, Chemistry I and II (with labs) and Physics I and II (with labs), with a requirement that you also finish 8 credit hours (2 being lab hours) of some other engineering/science (most got this covered by their major regardless).
But the bulk of my credit hours were in Comp Sci and Information Technology (they largely were cross-listed but some weren't). I did finish up a few more math courses (probability and statistics mostly).
So if you're going for a hard science or engineering degree but half your time is wasted on fine arts stuff... you're at the wrong school.
Well, in my case, my choices are limited. I can't just up and leave the state. I can't expect my mom and dad to expense an apartment for me to live somewhere closer to a technical school. I can't commute massive distances. I have a home, a wife, a stepson, a career and all the responsibilities that go along with those things. So it's not just a matter of going to the right school. There's one - maybe two - colleges near enough to me to make going actually possible. And the one I prefer requires those BS courses even for IT peeps like us. Er, and the other one does, too. See, you made a great choice in the school you attended - something that should be complimented. Thing is, it's not so easy once your life is past that just graduated HS phase. At least not for a lot of us. I really wish I could avoid that garbage, though. I wasn't as smart as you are when I was 18, though.
I think, as I said, that it's ok for a lot of kids right out of HS. Most don't really know what they want to be or, if they do, have a poor understanding of what that would actually entail. A little variety here and there very well could be of bene
I think, as I said, that it's ok for a lot of kids right out of HS. Most don't really know what they want to be or, if they do, have a poor understanding of what that would actually entail. A little variety here and there very well could be of benefit to them. However, for an engineer or a doctor wannabe, those extra classes are worse than useless. They distract from the studies the kid actually needs to be what they've chosen to be. I dunno about you, but I'd feel a lot safer with a doctor that spent all his or her time studying doctor stuff than I would with one who had to struggle through Spanish, Lit and Art Appreciation while also trying to learn doctor stuff. If the class will be of no real benefit it should not be required for graduation. Let them study what will actually help them do what they want to do. It just makes sense.
And, again, you have adults who want to go back to school who will be subjected to the same crap some clueless 18 year old will be. What's the benefit to me if I have to take some art class? I'm an IT professional. What the hell is that gonna do for me but waste my time and money? But distract me from classes that I actually need and may have trouble with? I know how to budget my time. I know how to handle more than one problem at once. I mean, it's no small part of what I do for a living. Oh, and I also know what I want to do for a living. Art has nothing to do with it. Surprisingly, neither does lit even though I read like an addict. All those extra classes do for me is turn me off of going back. It makes the idea of college seem ... I dunno, somewhat fake.
Additionally, most people attain diversity of knowledge on their own. I did. I mean, I have hobbies. I read. I don't need to pay someone to tell me about different stuff. I really, really don't want to pay someone to tell me about different stuff I don't have any interest in and the idea of being forced to pay someone to do it is, well, I'm sure you get the picture by now.
If you are an adult going back to school for a specific area of study, then you are better served by a specific school geared toward such. I think it would be smart for universities to offer such courses (and I know that many do), and there are schools that are geared toward that. Totally respect that aspect of it. If that's what you're looking for, then a general university program probably isn't for you.
In general, though, I support a liberal arts program.
As for the "achieving diveristy on your own" ... well, that's not the same thing. Reading for a hobby is not the same thing as reading critically or analytically. Learning art history is not the same as going to museums in your off time. Playing D&D isn't the same as taking a mathematics course. It isn't about giving you hobbies or interests, but teaching you different things - ways of looking at things, perhaps, or a broader knowledge of things, or what have you.
The thinking that education needs to be more career- or success-oriented is why they're cutting art classes from lower grades. For me, it's the same thing. Education is about learning a broad range of things - from math and science to art and the humanities. Do kids get out of it all that they can? Hell no. But the concept, I believe, is a good one.
I had to take some math and science classes during my BFA. I had a blast. I admit, as a person, I love pretty much all subjects (with the exception of rote-memorization things like [some] history and/or low-level chemistry). And Art History is boring as .
Do my math/science courses EVER come up in my life? Nope. But I'm still glad to have taken them, because it gave me a more rounded education and knowledge.
I also ended up taking a Religious Studies course to fulfill a literacy requirement, and ended up taking more and more to get a minor (a few credits short of a major, but I didn't want to spend another year there).
Granted, I went into college to pursue a degree in something I loved, not something that I was looking to get a job with, so that's my perspective.
Now, I'm all about providing different coursework for adults looking to improve their careers. There are schools for that, too (though you have to watch out for the for-profit schools out there that feed on working people - that's another issue entirely). I just think the liberal arts program is a good one.
EDIT: Also, the goal of a liberal arts program is not to get kids to decide what they want to do/be - it is to give the students a broad range of knowledge and exposure. Med school is specific for doctors, which comes after doing general studies, same as law school and the like. A liberal arts program is to make well-rounded, educated people in general, regardless of majors/career goals/etc. This is something I support.
If you are an adult going back to school for a specific area of study, then you are better served by a specific school geared toward such. I think it would be smart for universities to offer such courses (and I know that many do), and there are schoo
I guess I just don't see the same value in it that you do. Er, I mean I don't see the programs as doing what you say they do - at least on the level that you think. I'd much prefer it if classes that were outside of your major were offered but not required. When you're paying for an education you should be able to have some say in what that education should be. My degree should not depend upon anything that's not important in my field. I should not have to stress over a class that means nothing to my future outside of what some school decided to say it does. That's just the way I see it.
I guess I just don't see the same value in it that you do. Er, I mean I don't see the programs as doing what you say they do - at least on the level that you think. I'd much prefer it if classes that were outside of your major were offered but not
Yup, and I understand that. I think we're coming from two different perspectives, so that's cool. And I definitely think that, for furthering-education/career types (ex: working adults or post-degree peeps), there should be an avenue that doesn't follow the liberal arts program.
In other news, it's totally awesome here now. 70 degrees. Beautiful!
Please note: I am in NC. This is not usual December weather.
I need to get the Christmas stuff down from the attic, but I'm lazy. I'm not going to put up a tree this year, because I'm going to visit my family for the holiday and also because I don't have a good place to put it to keep it from the 2 year old. It's cool, though, cause I'm going to still put up lights and junk.
... Eventually. After I get the stuff down from the attic.
Yup, and I understand that. I think we're coming from two different perspectives, so that's cool. And I definitely think that, for furthering-education/career types (ex: working adults or post-degree peeps), there should be an avenue that doesn't fol
Yup, and I understand that. I think we're coming from two different perspectives, so that's cool. And I definitely think that, for furthering-education/career types (ex: working adults or post-degree peeps), there should be an avenue that doesn't follow the liberal arts program.
Yup, just different perspectives. I didn't really like it when I was 18, either, but that doesn't say much - just that my brain hasn't changed drastically or whatever.
In other news, it's totally awesome here now. 70 degrees. Beautiful!
Please note: I am in NC. This is not usual December weather.
I need to get the Christmas stuff down from the attic, but I'm lazy. I'm not going to put up a tree this year, because I'm going to visit my family for the holiday and also because I don't have a good place to put it to keep it from the 2 year old. It's cool, though, cause I'm going to still put up lights and junk.
... Eventually. After I get the stuff down from the attic.
It's in the 30s or 40s here I think. We had been told by weather 'experts' to expect a really bad winter. So far it's snowed about a quarter of an inch. Oddly, I don't like it. I mean, I hate dealing with snow but snow is awesome for hunting (er, a little snow). Oh well.
So you're in NC now, eh? Close to the coast? We're takin' a family trip to the Outer Banks next year. It's awesome down there.
Yup, just different perspectives. I didn't really like it when I was 18, either, but that doesn't say much - just that my brain hasn't changed drastically or whatever. :-PIt's in the 30s or 40s here I think. We had been told by weather 'experts' t
It's in the 30s or 40s here I think. We had been told by weather 'experts' to expect a really bad winter. So far it's snowed about a quarter of an inch. Oddly, I don't like it. I mean, I hate dealing with snow but snow is awesome for hunting (er, a little snow). Oh well.
So you're in NC now, eh? Close to the coast? We're takin' a family trip to the Outer Banks next year. It's awesome down there.
Been in NC for a little over 2 years now. About 2 hours from the beach.
Been in NC for a little over 2 years now. About 2 hours from the beach.
Been in NC for a little over 2 years now. About 2 hours from the beach.
I thought you was in KY for some reason. Oh well, you're still like 12 hours closer to the beach than I am. Er, until sometime next year for about a week.
EDIT: I listen to Pandora sometimes and wonder what sort of mental state I was in when I was listening to it on some previous date. Like, a song comes on and I check to see what and who's it is and discover that I've thumbsup'd it. And I'm like 'uh, ok dood'. Like, I'm not sure why. Mebbe there's more than one me in here ...
I thought you was in KY for some reason. :confused: Oh well, you're still like 12 hours closer to the beach than I am. :-P Er, until sometime next year for about a week. :evillaugh: :-PEDIT: I listen to Pandora sometimes and wonder what sort of
Been in NC for a little over 2 years now. About 2 hours from the beach.
I thought you was in KY for some reason. Oh well, you're still like 12 hours closer to the beach than I am. Er, until sometime next year for about a week.
Well, we were in KY before NC, so I can see where you'd think that. No biggie.
EDIT: I listen to Pandora sometimes and wonder what sort of mental state I was in when I was listening to it on some previous date. Like, a song comes on and I check to see what and who's it is and discover that I've thumbsup'd it. And I'm like 'uh, ok dood'. Like, I'm not sure why. Mebbe there's more than one me in here ...
I thought you was in KY for some reason. :confused: Oh well, you're still like 12 hours closer to the beach than I am. :-P Er, until sometime next year for about a week. :evillaugh: :-P[/quote]Well, we were in KY before NC, so I can see where y
I dunno about you, but I'd feel a lot safer with a doctor that spent all his or her time studying doctor stuff than I would with one who had to struggle through Spanish, Lit and Art Appreciation while also trying to learn doctor stuff.
Um... yeah those kinds of requirements are all undergrad stuff. Once you have someone going to med or law school they're done with that.
As for the rest... if you don't want a well-rounded education, you don't want an undergraduate degree. It's part of the package deal. You want purely technical training? Then find a school that's suited to that. It won't be a four-year college.
Um... yeah those kinds of requirements are all undergrad stuff. Once you have someone going to med or law school they're done with that.As for the rest... if you don't want a well-rounded education, you don't want an undergraduate degree. It's part
I dunno about you, but I'd feel a lot safer with a doctor that spent all his or her time studying doctor stuff than I would with one who had to struggle through Spanish, Lit and Art Appreciation while also trying to learn doctor stuff.
Um... yeah those kinds of requirements are all undergrad stuff. Once you have someone going to med or law school they're done with that.
As for the rest... if you don't want a well-rounded education, you don't want an undergraduate degree. It's part of the package deal. You want purely technical training? Then find a school that's suited to that. It won't be a four-year college.
Once again, EE says what I was trying to say, but better.
Can I hire you to just follow me around and be my translator?
I can pay in cookies and other baked deliciousness.
Um... yeah those kinds of requirements are all undergrad stuff. Once you have someone going to med or law school they're done with that.As for the rest... if you don't want a well-rounded education, you don't want an undergraduate degree. It's part
And why isn't anyone whining about this poor illegal immigrant getting booted? He just wanted a better life, dammit!
dood, Norton is terrible. ESET, homie. ESET.And why isn't anyone whining about this poor illegal immigrant getting booted? He just wanted a better life, dammit! :shakefist::-P
Good news, I'll be getting the injections i need to keep living,bad news for some of you,i'll still be alive
All it took appearently was switching my medicare plan from a less otterish one to one that cares about everyone
good news bad newsGood news, I'll be getting the injections i need to keep living,bad news for some of you,i'll still be alive All it took appearently was switching my medicare plan from a less otterish one to one that cares about everyone
With my ... uhh ... surfing habits it pays to pay for quality service. ESET was recommended to me by a friend with similar proclivities. He's thus far experienced no trouble from any of the more ... exotic sites he visits.
With my ... uhh ... surfing habits it pays to pay for quality service. ESET was recommended to me by a friend with similar proclivities. He's thus far experienced no trouble from any of the more ... exotic sites he visits.
Norton seems to work pretty good, havnt had any problems. I went with the 360 or whatever they call it. Its got a bucha added features to it, like online storage (which I never use). But it is a resource hog though, anythime its doing a background scan or whatever, really slows my **** down, but that just means its working extra hard right?
Norton seems to work pretty good, havnt had any problems. I went with the 360 or whatever they call it. Its got a bucha added features to it, like online storage (which I never use). But it is a resource hog though, anythime its doing a background sc
Norton seems to work pretty good, havnt had any problems. I went with the 360 or whatever they call it. Its got a bucha added features to it, like online storage (which I never use). But it is a resource hog though, anythime its doing a background scan or whatever, really slows my **** down, but that just means its working extra hard right?
Yeah, that's why Norton blows. ESET is totally transparent.
Yeah, that's why Norton blows. ESET is totally transparent.
So (mostly) put my new computer together. Still waiting for the OS to come in the mail, but when it does I'll install that. And once everything seems to be up and running I'll move my video card and biggest harddrive from this machine to it.
Kinda funny thought... I had a fan on the case door, but when I finally had everything all ready to close up I found that the heatsink/fan is too big. They hit my door fan. So I had to take that off and move it to another spot in the case.
So (mostly) put my new computer together. Still waiting for the OS to come in the mail, but when it does I'll install that. And once everything seems to be up and running I'll move my video card and biggest harddrive from this machine to it.Kinda f
Norton seems to work pretty good, havnt had any problems. I went with the 360 or whatever they call it. Its got a bucha added features to it, like online storage (which I never use). But it is a resource hog though, anythime its doing a background scan or whatever, really slows my **** down, but that just means its working extra hard right?
Yeah, that's why Norton blows. ESET is totally transparent.
And that is why ESET blows. MSE is free.
EDIT: Of course the other option is to get Linux which is also free. Can either just have it be your OS or dual boot.
Yeah, that's why Norton blows. ESET is totally transparent.[/quote]And that is why ESET blows. MSE is free.EDIT: Of course the other option is to get Linux which is also free. Can either just have it be your OS or dual boot.
I can run Crysis 2 and it at the same time and not lose but 2 FPS, if I'm going with the aggressive scan mode vs the gaming scan mode.
Also ZB did you know most of those........exotic sites are actually fairly clean these days? You get more spyware and malware going to places like Alex Jones website than you do...............exotic ones.
so is Avast.I can run Crysis 2 and it at the same time and not lose but 2 FPS, if I'm going with the aggressive scan mode vs the gaming scan mode.Also ZB did you know most of those........exotic sites are actually fairly clean these days? You get mor
Hooked up my new computer to the TV. It's weird sitting in front of my couch using a keyboard and mouse to browse the internet on the TV.
But hey, it helps make Star Wars the Old Republic look great.
Hooked up my new computer to the TV. It's weird sitting in front of my couch using a keyboard and mouse to browse the internet on the TV.But hey, it helps make Star Wars the Old Republic look great.
Also ZB did you know most of those........exotic sites are actually fairly clean these days? You get more spyware and malware going to places like Alex Jones website than you do...............exotic ones.
Yes I have. What a wonderful world we live in, no?
Yes I have. What a wonderful world we live in, no? :cloud9:
Something interesting that popped up on one of my tumbler accounts:
"Except you can’t show a topless woman on TV - and you can’t defibrillate a woman in a bra. So victims of heart attacks on TV are *always* male. Did you know that a woman having a heart attack is more likely to have back or jaw pain than chest or left arm pain? I didn’t - because I’ve never seen a woman having a heart attack. I’ve been trained in CPR and Advanced First Aid by the Red Cross over 15 times in my life, the videos and booklets always have a guy and say the same thing about clutching his chest and/or bicep.
And people laugh when I tell them women are still invisible in this world."
Eh, as long as it's open...Something interesting that popped up on one of my tumbler accounts:[article the tumbler pulled from Sorry, misattribution, relevant article, not sure about original source]Kinda reminds me of the good ol' days when medical
Oh well, you're still like 12 hours closer to the beach than I am. 
rocks.
