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10 months ago ::
Aug 07, 2012 - 7:59AM
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Im looking to make a rogue with secondary stat Charisma, and I'm interested in riposte strike to work as an second defender.
The only good retribution power I have find so long is riposte strike (with vigilant justice).
The problem is that the riposte is STR based, and that makes it almost worthless for a non-STR rogue.
Is there any way, aside daring blade PP, to make this at-will usable to a non-STR rogue?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 07, 2012 - 8:07AM
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Don't think so.
You could always go Rogue|Paladin or something.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 07, 2012 - 8:21AM
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Yes, there absolutely is! Check out the feat Nerathi Vanguard Style. Throw Mark of Warding on top of that.
Edit: Vigilante Justice Style won't stack on top of that though, so you can't have your cake and eat it too. As Mello said, hybriding with a defender works best here.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 07, 2012 - 11:09AM
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Feb 23, 2012
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You can't do it with a rogue but if you were a half-elf you could take it as your dilettante and then take adept dilettante and make it be either con, wis, or cha for both hits.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 07, 2012 - 11:17AM
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How exactly do the various style feats work in regards to Riposte Strike?
Do I determine which I'm using on the initial attack? On the riposte?
Is there really no wiggle room around the "one style at a time" thing?
D&D Next = D&D: Quantum Edition
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10 months ago ::
Aug 08, 2012 - 12:53PM
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Nice catch on the Nerathi Vanguard Style. This could make riposte strike usefull for a non-STR rogue.
Still, will have to find another way of punishing my enemy for ignoring me when off-tanking.
Mand12, I'm not really sure either how multiple interact styles for the same at-will, I just know that two different style feats cannot modify the same at-will at the same time.
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