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10 months ago ::
Aug 06, 2012 - 6:41AM
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So I have a query about fey sinkhole.
So I understand the power. You create a zone and then when an enemy starts within the zone, you make the 'Fey Sinkhole Attack' against it and if you hit, you daze the target and if it leaves the zone, it is teleported back in.
My question is this - Fey Sinkhole Attack is a daily use power. Even if it is an opportunity action, this still means you can only use it once. That means that you create a zone that lasts until the end of the encounter with the main power, but you can then only use the power on a single enemy once. It seems like 'Fey Sinkhole Attack' is intended to be an 'At-Will' meaning you can keep dazing and dragging multiple enemies into the sinkhole until you miss them. Powerful? yes, but it does little damage and it is level 15.
So yeh, that is my question, should Fey Sinkhole Attack be 'at-will' instead and is this an error in the power description? or do you think it is intended to just be used on a single enemy?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 06, 2012 - 6:45AM
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If you've looked this up in Compendium, you should know that it is notoriously bad at correctly stating the usage type of secondary powers. It's extremely likely that the OA part of this power is at-will. Check the primary source.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 06, 2012 - 6:57AM
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Sadly I do not have the primary source (PHB3). If anyone could shed some light on if this is an error in the Compendium, I would be very grateful :-)
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10 months ago ::
Aug 06, 2012 - 8:41AM
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You can keep making the attack so long as the zone exists.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 06, 2012 - 8:43AM
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Hi Alcestis
Did you confirm this from PHB3 listing the attack as an At-Will not a daily?
Thanks
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10 months ago ::
Aug 06, 2012 - 9:39AM
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Its an error of formatting in the DDi Compendium. The original source in the Player's Handbook 3 has no Daily usage limitation, so you can use it at-will, once per turn being an Opportunity Action, this whenever a creature will starts its turn within the zone.
Fey Sinkhole Seeker Attack 15 You open a temporary rift to the Feywild. A vortex of beguiling magic lashes around the opening, dragging creatures toward it. Daily - Primal, Psychic, Teleportation, Weapon, Zone Standard Action Area burst 1 within weapon range Effect: The burst creates a zone that lasts until the end of the encounter or until you dismiss it as a minor action. Until the zone ends, you can you can make the following attack using a square within the zone as the origin square. Opportunity Action Close burst 1 Trigger: A creature starts its turn within the zone Target: The triggering creature in the burst Attack: Wisdom vs. Will Hit: 5 psychic damage, and the target is dazed until the start of its next turn. If the target leaves the zone before the end of its turn, you can use a free action to teleport the target to a square within the zone.
Yan Montréal, Canada
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10 months ago ::
Aug 07, 2012 - 4:29AM
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Ahh yes, I see. That formatting makes more sense.
Cool, thanks very much :-)
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10 months ago ::
Aug 08, 2012 - 6:10PM
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The Compendium routinely lists any "sub-powers" contained within a power as being of the same type as the overarching power regardless of it's actual frequency of use...
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10 months ago ::
Aug 09, 2012 - 4:02AM
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Yep, so i've now noticed. It gets some right though which is why I queried it :-) But it is to do with the formatting of the power. The ones where they separate out the two powers in the book seem to be correct in compendium. Those where the second power is an indent of the first, tend to be incorrect in compendium.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 09, 2012 - 6:46AM
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The Compendium routinely lists any "sub-powers" contained within a power as being of the same type as the overarching power regardless of it's actual frequency of use...
Yup and Sometimes they add even more, like keywords, out of thin air.
Duelist's Prowess Rogue Attack 1 The way you stand appears to allow a foe an opening, but in truth your skill is such that you use your foe’s attack to draw it in for your own quick strike. Daily - Martial, Stance Minor Action Personal Effect: Until the stance ends, each time an enemy hits or misses you, you can use the Duelist's Prowess Attack power against it. Duelist's Prowess Attack Daily - Martial, Weapon Immediate Interrupt Melee weapon Requirement: The power Duelist's Prowess must be active in order to use this power. Requirement: You must be wielding a light blade. Trigger: An enemy adjacent to you attacks you Target: The triggering enemy Attack: Dexterity vs. Reflex Hit: 1[W] + Dexterity modifier damage.
Yan Montréal, Canada
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