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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 12:52PM #1
Phrennzy
Date Joined: Oct 10, 2002
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If a 9th level druid wildshapes into a Dire Bear, they gain the Improved Grab, yes?  So they become grapple maul machines?

So once he grabs someone, assuming the Bear wins the grapple check, the next round he can make one claw attack (at a -4).  If he has a high enough base attack bonus to gain an iteritve attack, he may make another attack at the lower attack bonus, with the -4 as well?

Is that correct? 

The gnome druid is wildshaping into the Dire Bear, but not grappling.  I think he may not be aware he can.  I want to have the rules straight before I remind/inform him of his Improved Grab.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 1:03PM #2
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Yes, he can Grab. No, he can't gain iterative attacks; unfortunately, natural weapons don't get those. A bear of any sort gets to make a full attack of claw/claw/bite and no more. It doesn't matter if its BAB is +1 or +16, it always gets the three attacks.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 04, 2012 - 7:18PM #3
Asteron
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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I thought the form you took with wild shape's hit die couldn't exceed your druid level? A dire bear has 12 hit die so you have to have 12 or more levels of druid to take that form...
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 9:14AM #4
Phrennzy
Date Joined: Oct 10, 2002
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O M G


We skipped over that line.  I feel like a schmuck.  
Boy that explains a lot.  
Thanks for pointing that out.  He's going to be supremely disappointed lol.  But it will restore some balance.  

Bless you. 
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"It was a great tactic, and our GM applauded us.  Sadly the Werewolf burst free in only two rounds, and killed everyone but the Sorceress who teleported away with only one arm." - Tetsuoh

"Having absolutely no ranks in any knowledges, my beloved Ric Flair based monk/rogue took off running immediately and attempted suicide by jumping off the bridge we were fighting on." - spitewrathhatred

"He asked me how old my character was (I said 82), and then rolled what his maximum age was. Because the number he rolled was less than what I had said, he informed me that my Bard was dead, and that I needed to make a new character." - King_of_the_Pudding
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 12:26PM #5
Asteron
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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He can still change into a Dire Lion. It's not as much of a powerhouse as a Dire Bear, but it still has improved grab and it get pounce! Pounce is fantastic!
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