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12 months ago ::
Aug 01, 2012 - 8:51PM
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As my title says, what becomes of the character creation tools and whatnot when 5E hits the market? I'm sure a 5E character generation system will take its place, will all the 4E players be left hanging, or will they release the program as a free download so we can continue to use it to create characters after 4E is dead?
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12 months ago ::
Aug 01, 2012 - 9:43PM
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Date Joined:
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If WOTC is smart, they will continue to sell access to the 4e builder and make money off an old edition.
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Big John Barleycorn
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Big John Barleycorn, Level 5
Human, Knight
Human Power Selection Option: Heroic Effort
Languages: Common, Dwarven
Theme: Mercenary
VITALS
AC: 25 Fort: 19 Ref: 15 Will: 17
HP: 38/54
Surges: 8/11
Surge Value: 13
Initiative: +8
Speed: 5
CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 19, CON 15, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 15, CHA 8
[] Action Point
Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +9, Endurance +7, Heal +9, Intimidate +8
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +0, Arcana +2, Bluff +1, Diplomacy +1, Dungeoneering +4, History +2, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +4, Religion +2, Stealth +0, Streetwise +3, Thievery +0
POWERS
Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
Vicious Longsword +1: +12 vs AC, 1d8+6 damage
Khopesh: +10 vs AC, 1d8+5 damage (Brutal 1)
Ranged Basic Attack
Javelin (10/20): +10 vs AC, 1d6+5 damage
Minor Action
> Active < Knight Feature: Defender Aura
Knight Feature: Battle Guardian
> - < Fighter Utility: Defend the Line Stance
> - < Fighter Utility: Hammer Hands Stance
[] Level 2 Utility: Glowering Threat
No Action
[] Human Racial Power: Heroic Effort
[X] Mercenary Theme Power: Takedown Strike
[][] Attack Power: Power Strike
FEATS
Class Feat: Shield Finesse
Racial Bonus Feat: Master at Arms
Level 1: World Serpent's Grasp
Level 2: Improve Initiative
Level 4: Superior Will
ITEMS
Longsword +1
Khopesh
Shield of Protection
[] Item Daily Power
Delver's Plate Armor +2
[] Item Daily Power
Javelin x3
Adventurer's Kit
1 Opal
235g 172s 50c Tsubasa Shou
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Tsubasa Shou, level 2
Human Euphoric Ardent
Theme: Windlord
Languages: Common, Elven
Origin: Elemental
VITALS
AC: 19 Fort: 16 Ref: 14 Will: 18
HP: 32/32
Power Points: [][]
Surges: 6/9
Surge Value: 8
Initiative: +2
Speed: 5
CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 13, CON 15, DEX 13, INT 8, WIS 10, CHA 18
[X][ Action Point
Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +9, Diplomacy +10, Endurance +8, Heal +6, Intimidate +10
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +4, Arcana +0, Bluff +5, Dungeoneering +1, History +0, Insight +1, Nature +1, Religion +0, Stealth +2, Streetwise +5, Thievery +2
POWERS
Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
Greatspear: +7 vs AC, 1d10+2 damage
Human At-Will Attack (Augment 0 only): Focusing Strike
At-Will Attack: Demoralizing Strike
At-Will Attack: Energizing Strike
[]Encounter Attack: Wind Fury Assault
[] Daily Attack: Battleborn Acuity
Move Action
Minor Action
[][] Encounter Utility: Ardent Surge
Immediate Reaction
[] Daily Utility: Healing Bond
No Action
[]Encounter Utility: Ardent Outrage
FEATS
Bonus Feat: Improved Defenses
Human bonus Feat: Polearm Expertise
Level 1: Weapon Proficiency: Greatspear
Level 2: Armor Proficiency: Scale
ITEMS
Magic Scale Armor +1
Flute
Silk Rope - 50 ft
Torch x2
Sunrod
Lantern
Oil (pint) x3
Tent
Bedroll
Backpack
Trail Rations x 10
Grappling Hook
Climber's Kit
Flint & Steel
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Reznik Callahan, Level 1
Human (Elf), Ranger/Druid
Languages: Common, Elven
Theme: Werewolf
CURRENT STATUS:
VITALS
AC: 17 Fort: 12 Ref: 15 Will: 14
HP: 25/25
Surges: 6/7
Surge Value: 6
Initiative: +4
Speed: 7
CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 13, DEX 18, INT 8, WIS 18, CHA 11
[X][] Action Point
Milestone: 2/2
[] Second Wind
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +4, Nature +13, Perception +11, Stealth +9
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana -1, Bluff +0, Diplomacy +0, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance +0, Heal +4, History -1, Insight +4, Intimidate +2, Religion -1, Streetwise +0, Thievery +3
POWERS
Standard Action
At-Will Attack Twin Strike
At-Will Attack Savage Rend
At-Will Attack Wolf Shape Attack: Useable only in Wolf Form
[] Encounter Attack Two-Fanged Strike
[X] Daily Attack Sure Shot
Minor Action
At-Will Utility Hunter's Quarry
At-Will Utility Wild Shape
[] Encounter Utility Wolf Shape
Free Action
[X]Encounter Utility Elven Accuracy
FEATS
Level 1: Versatile Expertise
Bow Expertise
Totem Expertise
ITEMS
Longbow
Hide Armor
Short Sword
Totem
Cold Weather Clothing
Adventurer's Kit Bharhas
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Bharhas, Level 3
Human, Warlord | Sorcerer
Human Power Selection Option: Bonus At-Will power
Languages: Common, Elven
Theme: Gladiator
CURRENT STATUS:
Phase of the Sun:
*At the start of your turn, each enemy adjacent to you takes fire and radiant damage equal to your Strength modifier.
*You also gain resist 5 cold.
VITALS
AC: 18 Fort: 18 Ref: 15 Will: 17
HP: 40/40
Surges: 6/6
Surge Value: 10
Initiative: +1
Speed: 6
CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 18, CON 10, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 8, CHA 17
[] Action Point
Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +8, Bluff +9, Diplomacy +9, Intimidate +9
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics -1, Arcana +1, Dungeoneering +0, Endurance -1, Heal +0, History +1, Insight +0, Nature +0, Perception +0, Religion +1, Stealth -1, Streetwise +4, Thievery -1
POWERS
Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
Longsword : +9 vs AC, 1d8+5 damage
Katar: +9 vs AC, 1d6+4 damage
Warlord Attack: Wolf Pack Tactics
Warlord Attack: Viper's Strike
Sorcerer Attack: Storm Walk
[] Gladiator Theme Attack: Disrupting Advance
[] Level 1 Warlord Attack: Diabolic Stratagem
[] Level 1 Sorcerer Attack: Cosmos Call
Minor Action
[] Level 2 Warlord Utility: Shake It Off
[] Level 3 Sorcerer Attack: Lightning Cuts
[] Warlord Feature: Inspiring Word
Free Action
Dark Sun Arcane Feature: Arcane Defiling
No Action
[] Warlord Feature: Battlefront Shift
FEATS
Racial Bonus Feat: Mastery of Knives
Level 1: Hybrid Talent
Level 2: Sorcerous Blade Channeling
ITEMS
Longsword
Katar
Cloth Armor of Sudden Recovery +1
[] Item Daily Power
Heavy Shield
Cloak of Distortion
Adventurer's Kit
Survival Day x10
427g
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11 months ago ::
Aug 02, 2012 - 4:18AM
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based on how wizards has operated ddi over the years, they will likely just abruptly announce they are shutting them down, possibly only through a broadcast. a few years later, they will do the exact same thing for 6e.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 02, 2012 - 4:39AM
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I would love to get an answer for this also. I love the Character Builder and can't think of having to go through all my books for feats and powers when I level up.
Both the Monster Builder and Character Builder are great for running a game, since I can import the data onto my combat tracker and it tracks powers used and hit points.
I also use the Compendium when a quick question comes up.
Please WotC stop leaving us in the dark about DDI. Let us know your plans. My subscription expires in October, and cancelled the auto-renew until I hear an answer.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 02, 2012 - 5:41AM
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It will probably come down to money. If the 4e tools continue to make money (or more specifically, ENOUGH money) to warrant keeping them up, they probably will. If too many people cancel their subs, they'll probably let it die.
On the other hand, they may simply choose to let it die to 'encourage' people to transfer to 5e.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 02, 2012 - 6:21AM
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Date Joined:
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I really wish they would let Lone Wolf developers take over with HERO LAB, I really like their program for other games I use.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 02, 2012 - 8:18AM
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Date Joined:
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If the 4e tools continue to make money (or more specifically, ENOUGH money) to warrant keeping them up, they probably will.
I am hoping for this.
On the other hand, they may simply choose to let it die to 'encourage' people to transfer to 5e.
But I am assuming this.
Here are the PHB essentia, in my opinion: - Three Basic Rules (p 11)
- Power Types and Usage (p 54)
- Skills (p178-179)
- Feats (p 192)
- Rest and Recovery (p 263)
- All of Chapter 9 [Combat] (p 264-295)
A player needs to read the sections for building his or her character -- race, class, powers, feats, equipment, etc. But those are PC-specific. The above list is for everyone, regardless of the race or class or build or concept they are playing.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 02, 2012 - 9:10AM
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I think Salla is probably right. Unfortunately, I also think a lot of people are going to do what Runfer_Cover has said he's doing. The longer WotC refuses to give a straight answer about this, the more people are going to turn off their auto-renew and let their subs expire, which is going to make WotC more likely to ditch the 4e tools as they'll be making less money from them.
Personally, I'm going to keep my annual sub going for as long as the tools are there. If they pull them, I'll ask to be reimbursed for any time remaining on my current subscription.
I've no interest in 5e at this point. 4e will almost certainly be my last edition of D&D. It's entirely up to WotC whether they want to continue taking my money.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 02, 2012 - 5:26PM
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Personally, I'm going to keep my annual sub going for as long as the tools are there. If they pull them, I'll ask to be reimbursed for any time remaining on my current subscription.
I've no interest in 5e at this point. 4e will almost certainly be my last edition of D&D. It's entirely up to WotC whether they want to continue taking my money.
This is how I feel as well.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 02, 2012 - 7:02PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2011
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Not me, I let mine go already.
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