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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 9:40AM
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Dec 11, 2002
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Just wondering if anyone has compiled a list of feats, PPs, and items that give save penalties to enemies? I have a Wizard that has some Save Ends effects and I want to make sure that they stick more often than not.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 9:46AM
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Here's a partial list Zelink put together. I've added a few more on.
Renegade Red Wizard theme
Phrenic Crown
Amulet of Seduction
Entrancing Mystic PP
Phiarlan Phantasmist PP
Spell Focus
Faerie Dragonling
Cunning Weapon
Curse Eye Tattoo (requires Action Point to be used)
For Illusion specific stuff:
Illusionist's Gloves
There are numerous orb implements that have daily powers to also keep the effect party going, but those aren't strict save penalties.
This is CharOp. We not only assume block-of-tofu monsters, but also block-of-tofu DMs.
One reach cheese'd threatening reach Spiked Chain shuts down any non-teleporting quarterback.
You're already refluffing, what not refluff to something that doesn't suck?
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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 10:09AM
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Feb 26, 2011
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My work keeps helping  Thanks Maltese!
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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 10:22AM
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Almost like someone should make a Save Penalty / Effect Extending handbook...
This is CharOp. We not only assume block-of-tofu monsters, but also block-of-tofu DMs.
One reach cheese'd threatening reach Spiked Chain shuts down any non-teleporting quarterback.
You're already refluffing, what not refluff to something that doesn't suck?
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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 10:29AM
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Feb 23, 2012
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I say the same thing about a flail handbook but we only have hte flail ideas thread.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 10:29AM
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I REFUSE!
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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 2:50PM
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Dec 11, 2002
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Great list. Thanks. Adding the Earthroot Staff to the list... limited to immobilize, petrify, slow, or restrain conditions. And here are the Orbs I could find since you mentioned them... Orb of Fickle Fate
Orb of Karmic Resonance
Orb of Impenetrable Escape
Orb of Ultimate Imposition (though it requires Orb of Imposition class feature)
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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 4:44PM
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Jun 11, 2010
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For Fear powers specifically:
PP: Doomsayer (Enemies within 10 reroll take lowest)
Item (Head): Skull Mask (Enemies who can see you take -2)
Item (Neck): Talisman of Terror (-1/2/3 to ongoing effects of power when you use a fear power)
all all saves rather than first save.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 8:56PM
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Almost like someone should make a Save Penalty / Effect Extending handbook...
We already have a Wizard handbook.
"Invokers are probably better round after round but Wizard dailies are devastating. Actually, devastating is too light a word. Wizard daily powers are soul crushing, encounter ending, havoc causing pieces of awesome." -AirPower25 Sear the Flesh, Purify the Soul; Harden the Heart, and Improve the Mind; Born of Blood, but Forged by Fire; The MECH warrior reaches perfection. My Guides
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12 months ago ::
Jul 24, 2012 - 6:56AM
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Dec 11, 2002
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I would think that there are other classes with an interest in Save Penalties, but it's true that Wizards have a major need for this.
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