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Sep 11, 2012 -- 3:14PM, Dracoprimus wrote:

card sleeves- I believe the rule is that each DECK needs to be in identical sleeves, so all the cards in your creature deck have to be in identical sleeves, and all the cards in your order deck have to be in identical sleeves, but each deck can be in different sleeves, ie. creature in red, order in blue.

This is the rule: "If a player chooses to use card sleeves, all sleeves must be identical and all cards in his or her deck must be placed in the sleeves in an identical manner."

No mention of decks or separate sleeves used for creatures and orders.

Sep 11, 2012 -- 2:27PM, bugging_bear wrote:

Unfortunately, thetourney floor rules state that if using sleeves, they must have identical backs (see page 12 of floor rules).

But a player is allowed to know the number of order cards or creature cards an opponant has at any time.

Though, to me, it would have made sense to use two different backed sets of  card sleeves. 

But I suppose using identical sleeves is just like keeping your cards face down in a single pile,

I should have downloaded the tournament rules when I had the chance, now my links are broken and the google custom search does nothing  Are you sure they don't mean each deck has to have the same back?  Because requiring identical sleeves for cards that don't have identical backs seems actively counterproductive - way easier to cheat that way!

EDIT: Beaten so hard.  But the second part implies they lifted it from something like Magic ("the deck" not "each deck") so I'd love to get a clarification.  If that's intentional then that's how it is but as a TO I find that rule pretty lame.  Not that DC is super competitive at this point, but I don't relish the idea of judges being called to verify that the cards in each hand are the right kinds of cards. 

On page 13 under the “Distance and Counting” side bar, first bullet says “The acting creature must have a line of sight to the target unless otherwise specified.” So must a creature have a line of sight to the hex it wishes to target with the “Fireball” card? Would this also apply to playing “Fire Trap”?

"The acting creature must have line of sight to the target unless otherwise specified."  Since Fireball and Fire Trap do not specify that LoS is not needed, the creature using those order cards will need LoS to the target squares.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned elsewhere but the 'distances and counting' sidebar refers to 'whenever you need to determine distance', so should only relate to orders that specify a range. Fireball specifies a range and an area of effect (range 5 then area within 2).

Fire Trap does not specify any range (it just says 'choose 1 hazardous terrain square'), it does specify an area of effect (within 2).

By implication, Fire Trap has no listed range, so why are you applying the rule about ranged attacks?

I understand that once you've chosen which square you have to have LoE etc. from that square to effect models caught in the blast.

But the way I read that card was as simple as the wording on it.

No range measured between model playing order and square chosen so LoS rules do not apply.

Same with cover, it applies against 'ranged attacks'. That needs clearing up with 'area attacks', are they 'ranged' or not?

Maybe the Fire Trap card needs an errata, but as it is, it simply is not a ranged attack, so ranged attack rules should not apply.

If it has not been cleared up already, could someone do so, as ToG deploy area is just asking to be fire trapped? ;-)

Sep 19, 2012 -- 8:04AM, mrfaloon wrote:

On page 13 under the “Distance and Counting” side bar, first bullet says “The acting creature must have a line of sight to the target unless otherwise specified.” So must a creature have a line of sight to the hex it wishes to target with the “Fireball” card? Would this also apply to playing “Fire Trap”?

"The acting creature must have line of sight to the target unless otherwise specified."  Since Fireball and Fire Trap do not specify that LoS is not needed, the creature using those order cards will need LoS to the target squares.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned elsewhere but the 'distances and counting' sidebar refers to 'whenever you need to determine distance', so should only relate to orders that specify a range. Fireball specifies a range and an area of effect (range 5 then area within 2).

Fire Trap does not specify any range (it just says 'choose 1 hazardous terrain square'), it does specify an area of effect (within 2).

By implication, Fire Trap has no listed range, so why are you applying the rule about ranged attacks?

I understand that once you've chosen which square you have to have LoE etc. from that square to effect models caught in the blast.

But the way I read that card was as simple as the wording on it.

No range measured between model playing order and square chosen so LoS rules do not apply.

Same with cover, it applies against 'ranged attacks'. That needs clearing up with 'area attacks', are they 'ranged' or not?

Maybe the Fire Trap card needs an errata, but as it is, it simply is not a ranged attack, so ranged attack rules should not apply.

If it has not been cleared up already, could someone do so, as ToG deploy area is just asking to be fire trapped? ;-)

I think that whoever is using the Fireball has to have line of sight to the square they want to Fireball.  If not, it allows them to drop the fireball in a room (see the Tyranny of Goblin tiles) and completely negates the benefit of obstacles.  I'm currently playing that you need LoS with Fireball to the square you want to hit.  Anything else just seems like it breaks the spirit of the game.