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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 8:47AM
#111
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350 damage to one target and 250 to another isn't even worth me doing the numbers. I know mine is better.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 1:46PM
#112
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350 damage to one target and 250 to another isn't even worth me doing the numbers. I know mine is better.
Well, who can argue with logic like that?
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 2:23PM
#113
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LEVEL 30 MATTERS SO MUCH.
"Invokers are probably better round after round but Wizard dailies are devastating. Actually, devastating is too light a word. Wizard daily powers are soul crushing, encounter ending, havoc causing pieces of awesome." -AirPower25 Sear the Flesh, Purify the Soul; Harden the Heart, and Improve the Mind; Born of Blood, but Forged by Fire; The MECH warrior reaches perfection. My Guides
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 2:53PM
#114
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Feb 26, 2011
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LEVEL 30 MATTERS SO MUCH.
ALL GAMES BEGIN THERE TOO
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 4:04PM
#115
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Yell or ignore if you like but i find it a tad bit annoying that Arm has bee selling us the "Stand and Bang" build and your a sucker if you think charging is the way to play barbarians and your doing it wrong if you wield anything other than the almighty Fulblade then when finally pressed into putting up his damage calcs all we get is a hybrid that uses the charge package and a GOUGE.
My 2cp for what thats worth.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 4:10PM
#116
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That wasn't his build, you completely misread that conversation.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 4:14PM
#117
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Feb 26, 2011
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Yell or ignore if you like but i find it a tad bit annoying that Arm has bee selling us the "Stand and Bang" build and your a sucker if you think charging is the way to play barbarians and your doing it wrong if you wield anything other than the almighty Fulblade then when finally pressed into putting up his damage calcs all we get is a hybrid that uses the charge package and a GOUGE.
My 2cp for what thats worth.
This is completely passive aggressive. Well done sir, you have done this time and time again, and its annoying every time!
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 4:15PM
#118
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Date Joined:
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That wasn't his build, you completely misread that conversation.
I see and my bad for misreading. So what we have for a damge calc to compare a stand and bang to Shaka's straight barb is a borrowed Fighter|Barb from LDB and still no damage calc for a Fulblade Fighter or Warden|Barbarian.
I get it now. Moving on.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 4:38PM
#119
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You don't have numbers either, and frankly, smarter people than either of us HAVE run the numbers, and you're just dead wrong. So its not worth my time to run nova numbers in excess of an at-level solo brute, it just becomes mental masturbation.
Uh, what? I spend quite a bit of time running the numbers. Especially on barbarians and sorcerers.
Scroll down midway through my barbarian. You'll find numbers. I also explain my assumptions, and describe what the character's tactics are.
If you don't have the time to do so, just admit so. But don't claim I'm too lazy to do so as well.
: Me and LDB ran the numbers for a nova focused hybrid Barb|Fighter.
LDB and I.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 4:55PM
#120
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That wasn't his build, you completely misread that conversation.
I see and my bad for misreading. So what we have for a damge calc to compare a stand and bang to Shaka's straight barb is a borrowed Fighter|Barb from LDB and still no damage calc for a Fulblade Fighter or Warden|Barbarian.
I get it now. Moving on.
This is because I wanted to give everybody an idea of what you can do with the tools. As I noted, that build is actually not as good as it could be because it isn't a morninglord. Off the top of my head (which is the best you're going to get for the most part - I don't give a rat's ass about doing the exact calculations because it's such a waste of time), using the unoptimized build in the OP, the numbers are...
Charge, using Hurricane of Blades, Boots of the Mighty Charge. It's assumed Battlefury Stance is triggered. Triggers Ring of Giants on the first attack, forgoes the push but takes the prone:
2d12+3d6+60something for first attack.
2d12+3d6+1d8+high 70somethings for second, third, fourth attack.
Assuming you score a crit, do another Hurricane of Blades for 2d12+1d8+High70somethings, and a Rampage for 2d12+1d8+High70somethings. Else, Storm of Blades. On crit, you trigger Erupting Font so the enemy takes another 3d6+8+10 damage.
Without a single ounce of mathematics, the projected damage is...lesse...70*6+60 = 480 damage before dice rolls, minimum, assuming no crits. Taking averages for rolls, we get 13*4+6.5*3+4.5*7+10.5*4 = 141 damage. This is assuming no crits. Note that this build has an 18-20 critrange on AP, so a critical hit is likely and causes a bonus attack plus maximization plus a ridiculous amount of stuff. So yeah, elites get bursted reliably because you have two bonuses to hit, you get a charge bonus, blah blah blah blah...all this on a fullblade, per encounter, for three straight encounters. Without a charge, the numbers dip by 42 points of damage. This still basically pulverizes an elite though, so I don't really care. Remember that this build is actually not as good as it could be. With further optimization, I could crank the damage up by a good two-hundred damage by picking Genasi and Reincarnate Champion. This is just the barebones of what it can do, while still retaining two-slash-three encounter powers for cleanup afterward.
EDIT: And I take offense to you saying 'LDB's build'. This was a join collaboration, and it did not exist until I got down to talking about the Stand and Bang build with him. Give respect to your optimization seniors.
EDIT EDIT: Oh yeah, and this is all in lab conditions! In a real game, you also get one-slash-two immediate action swings, plus potentially an ally MBA from Allied Opportunity if you play your cards right. (Content Removed)
(ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Baiting is against the Code of Conduct)
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ORC_Cerberus
on Jul 30, 2012 - 08:14PM
Mountain Cleave Rule: You can have any sort of fun, including broken, silly fun, so long as I get to have that fun too (e. g., if you can warp reality with your spells, I can cleave mountains with my blade).
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