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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:15PM
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Jan 11, 2005
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For strong roleplaying purposes (and, it must be said, optimization of the frostcheese variety, eventually), the Warden in my group wields a two-handed weapon, a +1 frost fullblade. Said Warden, while rocking 58 hps and rejuvenating capacity at level 4, nevertheless has the lowest AC in the party. She is otherwise wicked in her defender role, with fantastic stickiness, but I do wonder if the low AC (currently 18 at level 4) will quickly become more of a problem.
Thus, my question: what are some ways to boost the AC of this character who forgoes a shield and its bonus so that she doesn't hit the deck with increasing frequency? Currently, +1 Lifefont Hide Armor is the only contributor to her AC (Int 11, Dex 10), beyond level adjustment.
Many thanks!
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:17PM
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Dec 22, 2010
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MC Cleric for Healer's Lore and switch to Battle Cleric's Lore, which gives you scale prof and a +2 shield bonus to AC.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:26PM
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Nov 16, 2010
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+1 hide - 4
Secondary stat at 18(19 with bump) -4
Half level - 2.
Should be 20, minimum. And RP aside, wardens are meant to have a shield. Unless you are doing a pile arm build, stick with hammer and shield, or it'll start to hurt.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:36PM
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Um, Wardens Con or Wis to AC in light armor, so not sure why Dex or Int matter...
But 10 (base)+4 (stat, again Con or Wis)+3 (Hide)+1 (Magic) is 18, 1/2 level would be +2, so that is 20 right there. No reason it should be 18. If they aren't split 18/18 between Str and whatever their secondary is then... well, they are Doing It Wrong (with a handful of exceptions I won't go into).
Kind of sounds like they are trying to play a striker though.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:38PM
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Jan 11, 2005
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MC Cleric for Healer's Lore and switch to Battle Cleric's Lore, which gives you scale prof and a +2 shield bonus to AC.
Would you be kind enough to remind me where the Battle Cleric info is again? I can't seem to find it in the Compendium.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:40PM
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Battle Cleric's lore. It is a cleric class feature that you can substitute for Healer's lore. If i remember correctly, the only way to get it is hybriding though. You can MC to get healer's lore, but since you aren't a real-deal cleric, I'm fairly certain you don't get to swap healers for battle-cleric.
Additionally, if you're not in an RPGA game or an LFR game, consider getting an elven chain shirt for her. +1 AC.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:41PM
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Um, Wardens Con or Wis to AC in light armor, so not sure why Dex or Int matter...
But 10 (base)+4 (stat, again Con or Wis)+3 (Hide)+1 (Magic) is 18, 1/2 level would be +2, so that is 20 right there. No reason it should be 18. If they aren't split 18/18 between Str and whatever their secondary is then... well, they are Doing It Wrong (with a handful of exceptions I won't go into).
Kind of sounds like they are trying to play a striker though.
Right, forgot about the Con/Wis bonus, not Int/Dex, but my numbers are right:
10 (base) +2 (15 Con) +3 (Hide) +1 (Magic) +2 (half level) = 18.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:42PM
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Jan 11, 2005
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Battle Cleric's lore. It is a cleric class feature that you can substitute for Healer's lore.
Additionally, if you're not in an RPGA game or an LFR game, consider getting an elven chain shirt for her.
Yes, that's what I can't seem to find in the Compendium, but I've certainly seen in somewhere!
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:44PM
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Well then she built her Warden poorly. Not exactly shocking information, given that she picked a Fullblade, forgoing all Warden specific support.
Bad stat allocation is not fixable, except by rebuilding the character.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:44PM
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Battle Cleric's lore. It is a cleric class feature that you can substitute for Healer's lore.
Additionally, if you're not in an RPGA game or an LFR game, consider getting an elven chain shirt for her.
Yes, that's what I can't seem to find in the Compendium, but I've certainly seen in somewhere!
Just updated my post. If you look in the online compendium it's not listed, but if you use CB, just click cleric, and swap healer's lore for battle cleric's lore, and it will tell you the sourcing and the benefit there. It basically just gives scale and a +2 shield bonus to AC.
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