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12 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 7:16AM #1
daedel
Date Joined: Jul 13, 2004
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Hello,

I have a problem with Warlock Curses. Let's take Curse of The Dark Dream for example. The effect says "Effect: The target is subjected to the dark dream (save ends). Until this effect ends, you can slide the target 1 square as a minor action once per round, starting on your next turn."

Since this curse is a ranged power and the range is 10, does it mean that the effect can only be applied if the target is at a maximum of 10 squares? Or that doesn't affect?

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 7:20AM #2
Mand12
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In this case, the range is only relevant to the initial casting.  If the creature moves out of range while still being subject to the dark dream, you can still do the slide even though it's far away.

There are some circumstances where persistent effects are range-limited, but those will be stated either in the power itself or in general rules (like for powers with the Conjuration keyword, for example).
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 7:37AM #3
daedel
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Understood. What happens if you don't have line of effect to the target? Or if you don't have line of sight? (for example, if you move him/her to an area of darkness)
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 7:40AM #4
Mand12
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You'd need line of effect still, but not line of sight.  You always need line of effect to affect a target, but you only need to see the target if the power or some other general rule says you need to see the target.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 7:45AM #5
daedel
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Thank you!
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 8:25PM #6
RedSiegfried
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Jul 9, 2012 -- 7:40AM, Mand12 wrote:

You'd need line of effect still, but not line of sight.  You always need line of effect to affect a target, but you only need to see the target if the power or some other general rule says you need to see the target.


Where is the origin square of the ongoing effect in this case, per RC 99?
 
Why are both range and line of effect relevant to the initial attack in this case but only the line of effect is relevant to the ongoing effect and the range isn't?

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