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11 months ago ::
Jul 24, 2012 - 9:17PM
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ah, well I don't allow CE, its too game breaking when someone wants to be a kill monkey, half my group is always CE or CN and well... ive explained how those games go. I usually run serious/and or grim settings heh. Trying to be Richard does not make one richard, nor does slaughtering them with fire or cold.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 24, 2012 - 9:27PM
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I don't know if I should take offense to that or not....I've been playing characters like that long before LFG was even out. and kill monkey? please, I'm much more sophisticated then that. You -can- be a sadistic bastard without being a brainless murder machine.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 24, 2012 - 9:33PM
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Well, as I said, CE is one of those alinments that quickly makes a weak minded party lose the concept of plot and go off the end. Easy to turn a session into a rambling rampage. It's often also used as a player vehicle to vent out of world flusterations and such. Im not saying that its any better or worse then any alin, but that, along with LG can often provide sudden staggering problems for a setting, unless the DM has a sense of humor that allows such a habit to be the norm is all I am saying. Sadism, murder, torture, etc don't have a place in a lot of the campaign themes I run, unless its for -very- specific occurences and even then it's usually reserved for the high point of a game or session, not 'a bag of kittens on fire'. The paladin should have put a stop to that if the paladin followed -his- LG role. Different games, different concepts.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 24, 2012 - 9:41PM
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Different groups, the one with the bag of kittens was mostly neutral, and mostly for fun. and while I understand some DMs simply don't like certain alignments I really have no idea with that. Mostly its the idea that chaotic evil = mindless death monkeys that rubs me the wrong way.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 24, 2012 - 9:47PM
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I do know, once, I played CE, but it was by accident. The DM was.... Harsh, shall we say. Everything from destroying the city the character was in, killing the entire party, blaming the character for it and so forth. he was orginally a LN monk. Wound up a CE Rage monk variant/Wizard who was forced to choose between becoming a demons minion or facing a entire army alone, while suffering from a curse that slowly sapped Int-Wis every time he crit'd. Eventually he became rather unhinged and unbalanced, his last act was a spartan style charge at the army, death by hail of arrows. Wasn't fun, but yeah, most people I have ever encountered run CE either Saw style, Berzerk murderer style or unhinged psycho who cannot work with the party, does horrible things to npcs, etc, it alters the overall tone if the party knows they're unable to gauge what X is going to do sadly. XD but eh dnd is a many faceted thing!
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11 months ago ::
Jul 24, 2012 - 10:19PM
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Well, mine are usually more..Dynamic. As I said, I mostly play for fun so my groups and campaigns tend to be of a lighter feel, even if they do have their dark, heavier moments. But, usually they're more of psychopaths who take sadistic glee in others misfortune and pain, they also know their limitations both physical and not and will gladly bust a flare in someones face and run like a little girl if the need araises.
They do also, usually, tend to get along with and not backstab the group as a whole. Even the most sadistic of characters can make friends, hell in that group with the paladin they were buddies by the end, even if it was a very odd friendship, and he kind of turned more chaotic neautral/good by the end in that...He still had a joy of grabbing bunnies by the ears and giving them a shocking grasp, but mostly he contained it for genuine threats. He'll let the bunny go in a heart beat if something comes up and tries to attack the group.
But, as a whole I'm just drawn to the more sadistic character choices I guess. But remember, chaotic evil is not the same as chaotic stupid.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 27, 2012 - 5:03PM
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I Just finished the prep for my Campaign (geared towards being alonger one) and I use the same tools as you. community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...(4th)_Edition. hit me up if your interested.
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