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11 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 1:45AM #31
Koshinuke
Date Joined: Feb 23, 2012
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They both give the same bonuses, i.e. +1/2/3 hit and +1/2/3 damage on a charge.  That being said, if you take them both, you will end up with only +1/2/3 hit but +2/4/6 damage because the while the +hit is a feat bonus and therefore they do not stack, the +damage bonus is untyped and therefore they do stack.  But either one is good.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 8:10AM #32
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If you're using a Gouge, take Spear Expertise. Especially if you plan on getting Rage of the Crimson Hurricane at level 5 as recommended in LDB's handbook. I don't know if the CB is broken in regards to this, but you do not get the bonus to hit for RotCH from Two-Handed Expertise since the power is a burst.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 9:43AM #33
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There is one barbarian path worth looking at - Winter Fury. It allows you to use permafrost without eating your weapon enchantment.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 1:54PM #34
Larry_Hunsaker
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Why not take Surprising Charge, if you are taking the MC Fighter anyway.


Surprising Charge


Heroic Tier
Prerequisite: Dex 17, fighter or rogue
Benefit: When you make a charge attack against a target that is granting combat advantage to you, the attack deals 1[W] extra damage if you hit with a light blade or a spear.


Published in Martial Power, page(s) 139.


 
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 2:58PM #35
Kroann
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Jul 9, 2012 -- 1:54PM, Larry_Hunsaker wrote:

Why not take Surprising Charge, if you are taking the MC Fighter anyway.


Surprising Charge


Heroic Tier
Prerequisite: Dex 17, fighter or rogue
Benefit: When you make a charge attack against a target that is granting combat advantage to you, the attack deals 1[W] extra damage if you hit with a light blade or a spear.


Published in Martial Power, page(s) 139.


 




Well my original build was focused on Axes instead of the Gouge so I did not qualify. I have since taken Surprising Charge.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 7:39PM #36
Noctaem
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Since you took fighter, you should look at the paragon path "Blood-Crazed Berserker".  It's like charge heaven.  requires fighter in some form and evil alignment (lol).
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 12:40PM #37
Kroann
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Ohhhh I overlooked that one. I was gonna switch from Bear Warrior to Bloodfury Savage, but I will give Blood-Crazed Berserker a look.

Another question. I am thinking of dropping the gouge (I know it is superior) in favor of the Executioners Axe. Gouge with Surprising Charge is almost too powerful / cheese, and kind of pigeon holes you into JUST charging. Also this will free up two feats (Battle Awareness & Surprising Charge) to help me better round out my character.

My question is this; if I am going to skip surprising charge is there any reason to MC into fighter? This is assuming I take the Bloodfury Savage PP. I understand that fighters unlock some killer PPs but I am speaking featwise.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 12:43PM #38
mattador666
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Battle Awareness gives you an off-turn attack with an easy trigger.  That's worth a feat to me.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 12:50PM #39
Koshinuke
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Gouge + Draeven Maruader can make dms cry.  Crit on a 19-20 while charging or simply standing there and attacking is all around bad for team monster.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 3:01PM #40
Kroann
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Jul 11, 2012 -- 12:50PM, Koshinuke wrote:

Gouge + Draeven Maruader can make dms cry.  Crit on a 19-20 while charging or simply standing there and attacking is all around bad for team monster.




Not to mention the fact that it takes away any incentive to do much of anything else. I would rather have a balanced character I enjoy playing even if that means my DPR may suffer a little bit.

I do still plan on having a strong emphesis on charging, just not putting all my eggs in one basket. I will post my plan for my new build soon and see what type of feedback I get.

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