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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 5:26PM #1
NinjaScientist
Date Joined: Jul 4, 2012
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I am new to 4E and joining an in-progress campaign at level 11.  The party already has a wizard, a warden, and a bard.  I am trying to make the most accurate melee striker possible to contribute.  Please help me improve my character; no part of it is set in stone yet.  


====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Lord Gumball, level 11
Dragonborn, Fighter
Fighter: Combat Agility
Fighter Talents: Two-handed Weapon Talent
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Axe)
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Spear)
Dragonborn Racial Power: Dragon Breath
Dragon Breath Key Ability: Dragon Breath Strength
Dragon Breath Damage Type: Dragon Breath Fire


FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 19, Con 16, Dex 16, Int 13, Wis 15, Cha 11.


STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 12, Wis 14, Cha 8.



AC: 27 Fort: 23 Reflex: 20 Will: 19
HP: 91 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 25


TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +12, Endurance +13, Athletics +14


UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Arcana +6, Bluff +5, Diplomacy +5, Dungeoneering +7, History +8, Insight +7, Intimidate +7, Nature +7, Perception +7, Religion +6, Stealth +8, Streetwise +5, Thievery +8


FEATS
Level 1: Weapon Proficiency (Gouge)
Level 2: Two-Handed Weapon Expertise
Level 4: Spear Expertise
Level 6: Versatile Expertise
Level 8: Axe Expertise
Level 10: Weapon Focus (Axe)
Level 11: Weapon Focus (Spear)


POWERS
Fighter at-will 1: Wicked Strike
Fighter at-will 1: Brash Strike
Fighter encounter 1: Insightful Strike
Fighter daily 1: Harrier's Ploy
Fighter utility 2: Pass Forward
Fighter encounter 3: Advance Lunge
Fighter daily 5: Brazen Assault
Fighter utility 6: Daring Shot
Fighter encounter 7: Weapon Master's Gambit
Fighter daily 9: Bone Crusher
Fighter utility 10: Fighter's Grit


ITEMS
Jagged Gouge +3, Magic Wyvernscale Armor +3, Cloak of Displacement +2
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I have tried to maximize my accuracy while still doing substantial damage.  I am using a gouge because it can hit really hard. I have picked daily and encounter powers that do a lot of damage.  My weapon has a jagged enchantment to make the most of my high accuracy.  For example,

Brash Strike:

Power modifier +2
Strength mod +4
Half level +5
weapon proficiency +2
Weapon enhancement +3
Two handed weapon talent +1
Two handed expertise +2
Spear Expertise +2
Versatile Expertise (Spear) +2
Versatile Expertise (Axe)  +2
Axe Expertise +2

=+27 to hit.  


Thanks in advance!
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 5:47PM #2
Mand12
Date Joined: Jun 17, 2010
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If the answer is anything other than Avenger, the answer is wrong.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 5:55PM #3
WOLead
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All Expertise feats are all Feat Bonuses, so none of those stack.

Light Blade has the best support for accuracy boosting that does stack.  Going so far as to make MBAs target Reflex instead of AC in Paragon tier.  So look there, while looking at the Avenger class and its double rolls.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 6:24PM #4
Mand12
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 5:55PM, WOLead wrote:

All Expertise feats are all Feat Bonuses, so none of those stack.

Light Blade has the best support for accuracy boosting that does stack.  Going so far as to make MBAs target Reflex instead of AC in Paragon tier.  So look there, while looking at the Avenger class and its double rolls.



Half of that support also applies to spears, which makes the Gouge a good choice.  Gouge > all.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 6:35PM #5
tobascodagama
Date Joined: Jul 16, 2010
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 5:47PM, Mand12 wrote:

If the answer is anything other than Avenger, the answer is wrong.



Correct. Rolling twice for your attacks trumps everything else in terms of accuracy boosting, because it magnifies the benefit you get from Expertise/Combat Advantage/leader benefits/etc.

Oh, and while Fighters have very high damage for a defender and some of the best damage-oriented PPs in the game, they still don't really qualify as strikers.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 7:39PM #6
Jugulator007
Date Joined: Nov 16, 2010
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Avenger or dagger rogue would be my 2 answers.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 8:21PM #7
ezrider23
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2009
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And no matter what you play please fix those ability scores. Never start with lower than an 18 in your attack stat. Especially since your looking to be accurate.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 8:27PM #8
Tektonik
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 8:21PM, ezrider23 wrote:

And no matter what you play please fix those ability scores. Never start with lower than an 18 in your attack stat. Especially since your looking to be accurate.




there are plenty of cases that a 18+ is not needed or even optimal. All depends on what you are trying to do and what level the character will end at. 

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 8:28PM #9
Eisenritter
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 8:27PM, Tektonik wrote:

Jul 4, 2012 -- 8:21PM, ezrider23 wrote:

And no matter what you play please fix those ability scores. Never start with lower than an 18 in your attack stat. Especially since your looking to be accurate.




there are plenty of cases that a 18+ is not needed or even optimal. All depends on what you are trying to do and what level the character will end at. 




Accuracy was requested.  Starting below 18 is not an option.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 8:30PM #10
Tektonik
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 8:28PM, Eisenritter wrote:

Jul 4, 2012 -- 8:27PM, Tektonik wrote:

Jul 4, 2012 -- 8:21PM, ezrider23 wrote:

And no matter what you play please fix those ability scores. Never start with lower than an 18 in your attack stat. Especially since your looking to be accurate.




there are plenty of cases that a 18+ is not needed or even optimal. All depends on what you are trying to do and what level the character will end at. 




Accuracy was requested.  Starting below 18 is not an option.




Yes it is. Depending what level you end at. 

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