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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 12:54PM
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] Except that you can still do exactly what you just said, because this power just skipped people actually rolling Intimidate. Of course, they still give the ability to Diplomacy and Bluff. Because, y'know, having your party gank skill challenges in one round is so muc hbetter without Intimidate.
tl;dr Thanks for making my point about RPGers for me.
Meh, I just tried to find a reason for it, not defend the change. So no reason to go all offensive right away. 
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:04PM
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i love that they nerfed the quest for humanity epic d. it was such a broken piece of crap; just unreal it even made it into print in the first place it was so obviously and completely broken. good job wizards
Yes its SO much more broken then some other EDs. Well done sir, your analysis is impeccable
aww. maybe you need a nap little guy, youre acting all tuckered out
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:05PM
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Least I don't need a grammar lesson 
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:15PM
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While I admit that it was probably my fault, *boy* did this deteriorate quickly.
On the CO IRC, generally as TorpedoFish. Vain? Me? NEVER.
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You're the straightest shooter I know on these boards. You don't mince words about your opinions, and I respect that about you. The whole fiasco you described in the last State of the CO Forum was particularly enlightening (and kind of disappointing with regards to how they see us).
Ah, Tsuyo. When your post isn't one sentence long full of asterisks, you have much wisdom to share with us .
From the IRC: (19:52) RuinsFate: You know, I was gonna agree with something PalOn said... but I think I'm just gonna through my lot in with tsuyo's sudden train-wreck grade interjection.
(01:45) Nausicaa: yes your rage is a righteous rage :D
(01:45) Nausicaa: righteous rage of torpedo
My sci-fi writing.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:25PM
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Least I don't need a grammar lesson
touche' 
but seriously i am not looking for an argument, just supporting the change to what i saw as overpowered. if you guys liked it, sorry it got changed, homebrew it back for your games
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:26PM
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Yet you never stated why it was overpowered. And frankly, as Zathris says, anything 26+ is just mental masturbation.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:34PM
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Yet you never stated why it was overpowered. And frankly, as Zathris says, anything 26+ is just mental masturbation.
i dont understand. you dont know why auto 20s on intimidate checks is overpowered? i also dont get your '26' comment; are you saying high epic is unplayable? and the masturbating? whatever youre saying there, you said it in a really gross way. like totally gross
on second thought, maybe its best we just dont keep talking to each other! we just disagree so there isnt any point.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:36PM
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If you think Take 20 on an Intimidate check is overpowered, I pray you never set foot in an Exalted game with a Social combat monkey.
The effects of successful intimidation are, as always, still up to the DM. It makes the power great, but still essentially a storytelling/fiat tool. There are other ED powers/features that aren't nearly as "polite" in terms of disrupting games.
This is CharOp. We not only assume block-of-tofu monsters, but also block-of-tofu DMs.
One reach cheese'd threatening reach Spiked Chain shuts down any non-teleporting quarterback.
You're already refluffing, what not refluff to something that doesn't suck?
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 2:30PM
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The effects of successful intimidation are, as always, still up to the DM.
Except surrendering. They got rid of all ambiguity in the RC.
i dont understand. you dont know why auto 20s on intimidate checks is overpowered?
No, I know why they're not. As I show in this thread and particularly this post, by the time you get to Epic the actual dice roll is pretty much inconsequential. It makes things a little easier, sure, but it's not something that you can't do anyway.
This power was totally unproblematic, and cutting Intimidate from it is insulting.
On the CO IRC, generally as TorpedoFish. Vain? Me? NEVER.
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You're the straightest shooter I know on these boards. You don't mince words about your opinions, and I respect that about you. The whole fiasco you described in the last State of the CO Forum was particularly enlightening (and kind of disappointing with regards to how they see us).
Ah, Tsuyo. When your post isn't one sentence long full of asterisks, you have much wisdom to share with us .
From the IRC: (19:52) RuinsFate: You know, I was gonna agree with something PalOn said... but I think I'm just gonna through my lot in with tsuyo's sudden train-wreck grade interjection.
(01:45) Nausicaa: yes your rage is a righteous rage :D
(01:45) Nausicaa: righteous rage of torpedo
My sci-fi writing.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 2:34PM
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Yet you never stated why it was overpowered. And frankly, as Zathris says, anything 26+ is just mental masturbation.
i dont understand. you dont know why auto 20s on intimidate checks is overpowered? i also dont get your '26' comment; are you saying high epic is unplayable? and the masturbating? whatever youre saying there, you said it in a really gross way. like totally gross
on second thought, maybe its best we just dont keep talking to each other! we just disagree so there isnt any point.
How old are you, 14? It's a very obvious expression. By 26 PCs should be so powerful it doesn't even matter. I figured that was clear. And frankly, if you can bloody a few monsters, removing them from the board isn't OP as tsuyo stated, all it does is speed up combat. You haven't yet explained how its more overpowered than encounter novas that can kill solos, or the like. A number of EDs enable things like that, making Intimidate Op, and its resources, much harder compared to simple nova numbers, or things like Radiant One.
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