I'm stoked for the reprinting of 1E books, it would be nice to have a copy around that I don't have to put on gloves, open in a hermetically sealed chamber, and store deep underground away from light. Now if only they'd reprint the 1E modules....one can dream.
With 3.5 being announced, I can't help but ask, where's the 2e love? Core books, supplemental books (kits anyone?), etc.
I second this.
Would love to see some 2nd Edition stuff reprinted. Especially if they could get into some of the old boxed set campaigns!
This reminds of me of the re-issue of classic generation 1 Transformers when the new movies were released.
Have you seen the prices for From the Ashes, Greyhawk Wars, etc.? It's nuts. Just to have straight reprints - not converted - would be amazing. There's so much good source material in Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, Spelljammer and more. I think with 1e and 2e reprints it would be a no-brainer.
Sometimes you can purchase the AD&D Core Rules CD-ROM used. It contains the main rulebooks in RTF, HTML, and the old Windows Help format I believe. It also has most of the Complete X Handbooks books, but not all of them. The AD&D Core Rules Expansion CD-ROM is just as useful. All of these files are on that CD-ROM too. You don't even have to install it for a wealth of information. I still have mine and use it for reference on occasion.
Same here! I preordered the 1st edition reprints as soon as they went on sale. I dont know that I will purchase the 3.5 edition reprints but I would snap up 2nd edition reprints!
2e was first published after 1978. So no, they do not need to reprint it periodically like they do 1e. It won't happen.
Yep! Show me where to spend my money. I say rerelease them all ( editions) and then WOTC can reclaim all the lost fans and revenue as well as move forward with D&D next to unite the fanbase. They will make a killing!
Oh, give them a few weeks to start plastering the website with the 3.x reprint ads, and then I'm sure they'll start doing the same with 2nd Edition.
I mean, that's basically what the website is now, ads for reprints and shilling for DnD Next.
I say release all editions and let the players decide what version of the game they would like to play! This way everyone can be happy and WoTC could make alot of thier money back from the palyers they lost to pathfinder.
Nay say, blah blah, talk out yer rump.. dee,dee. Hey back to reality, are you aware that there is an online petition to WOTC for just this exact thing? By the way did you notice how you are the only negative voice on this thread? We want a cross edition reprint. if you don't then just back off please. Your negativity is not going to change our minds.
I have a good copy of 2E core books. That said I would still buy another set if WOTC printed them. You hear that WOTC? I want to give you my money.
Just picked up the 1E reprints, and the quality is so darn good for a set that will NEVER be used, that I would gladly purchase 2E reprints as well.
I would instantly buy a 2ed reprint, especially if they put into all the corriges,and the player option errata's to the list of spells/schools.
There will be no 2e reprints, the books are still out there and easy to get. Half price books always have the 3 core books on shelf. WOTC only reprinted 1e to shut up us OSR people and help the Gygax fund. Besides, why would you want to buy three books with a new cover and the same thing you bought in the late 80s on the inside for 3 times the price?
Carbonfiber07 -- I don't think 3.5 should be reprinted at all. They should just leave it dead, WOTC dropped the ball on it, and Paizo grabbed it up and took that poor child and gave it a home, new clothes, and taught it new rules. What happened? Its gold now.
i would love to see a reprint of second edition and i would definitely buy the books. While on the subject of editions-i dont see why a 5th edition is really "needed". everyone that plays D&D has a favorite edition. So why not just re-release all the editions and just produce supporting materials for all the editions? that way everyone can still play the edition they think is the best WOTC can still make $ and be a profitable company and they wouldnt be "edition restricting" themselves.
Regardless of what you think 3.5 are being reprinted. I have a great reason for buying a new book for more money. It's new! No worries about the quality of the item the seller actually has and it will last a lot longer.
2e is my personal favorite. That's when I started playing on a regular basis. Love those black, white and blue pages. It really takes me back. I would love a nice new copy of the core with better quality bindings and errata update. Planescape would be a great reprint!
I hope they would stick with the original printing's cover art as they did with the 1e books. Though I really loved the second cover design for the 1e books. That was some sweet artwork.
Just make them limited editions, just like the 1e books. Booksellers won't have an inventory problem then. They can't support all these titles indefinitely.
Please print them!
I'm with you all on this. I have played all editions of the game, and find 2E to still be my favorite. With the exception of some personal "I want it toos" from some WotC guys at their booth at Gen Con, I have yet to get a response about this from anyone that would be able to give a for-sure; my questions have remained ignored.
... and I've got a wad of money I want to give WotC if they reprint the 2e books.
I'm not asking for much here WOTC. Give me my 2nd edition reprints with Jeff Easley's first Mounted knight Cover and the Wizard and Dragon Cover DMG and I'll give you my money. Next is a maybe at this point and isn't catering to my playstyle or prefered flavor. If you reprint 2nd. Edition- they will buy. Do you need shoeless Joe Jackson to show up in a corn field for you or what?
I want TSR AD&D. Give me Zebs D&D please. Yours has a bad after taste and gives me gas.
You do realize I'm joking here,
We have the 1e reprints because it meshed nicely with the Gygax memorial fund and the nostalgia they're trying to build in preperation for Next.
We have 3e because they want to win back the Pathfinder players who feel abandoned by WotC (and, likely because someone at WotC likely belives the reason PF is doing as well as it is, is because there's no 3e books to compete with).
2e... isn't as different from 1e as the other editions, so there's less mechanical incentive. And it didn't sell as well as 1e or 3e, which were the spikes in the hobby. (D&D seems to have the oposite problem as Star Trek where the even editions are more poorly recieved than the odd.)
2e also have a heavy revision/reprint late in the editon's lifespan (the black bordered books) which are not hard to find in stores. It's easy for interested parties to hit used book stores or eBay and find copies.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on the popularity of 2nd edition. I have a long waiting list for my current 2E campaign. 2E source & core rulebooks are very hard to find in my community, and per the FGLS & 1/2 Price Books, those that do come in get snapped up quickly. Most players that I know personally who tried 3/3.5/4 went back to 2E after awhile. Maybe I run in different D&D circles, but the overwhelming majority of those I have talked to (including those I rolled with at Gen Con this year) enjoyed and would love a 2E reprint. The only real negative people I have come across concerning 2E are either on this board or a particular WotC employee who shall remain nameless (rhymes with Mike Mearls, lol).
Glad to see there are more of us out there! I dearly want all of the 1e and 2e products reprinted, especially the modules and including products like Dark Sun or Al-Qadim (even though I do have my original Al-Qadim in near-mint condition, I'm terrified to touch it because they're hard to find!). I am a Greyhawk fun through and through but I would love to get my hands on a reprint of Undermountain.
Temple of Elemental Evil (ridiculously expensive on Ebay/Amazon)
From the Ashes (again ridiculously expensive)
ALL 1e modules
All 2e modules
hmmm, there's tons more. I'm not a penniless kid anymore WotC, I have money now and I wish to dispose of it. If only you would get this done.
Yea, the support here for a 2E reprint is quite positive. I think we just need to keep pestering WotC and we may see this.
I find it strange that a couple of months ago Mike Mearls was reported as claiming that AD&D 2nd edition was his favorite system to play and yet we don't see any move by WOTC to reprint it. There's no love for us fans of 2e, in this company? I play all pre WOTC versions of the game and It sure would be cool to have some 2nd edition books to show that we are wanted as fans the way everyone else is. Iv'e been working hard at uniting the fans across editions and one of my favorites is left out in the cold. 2e. was such a cool game and so detailed and fun. What a pity it would be if it doesn't get a reprint. Right now I am left to purchase them used online for nearly as much as new books cost as they retain their value. I could be supporting WOTC with my money. Seems sad to me.
Didn't they say WotC will soon be selling all previous edition books in PDF formats?
They did. However, with the physical copy reprints of 1E & 3.5 many of us would love to see a physical copy of the 2E core rules as well, instead of leaving it out as WotC seems to enjoy doing.
I will also state this: from a business standpoint, I do believe that reprinting 2E would be reasonably beneficial to WotC. It could spark interest again in the edition, causing an increase of sales of the 2E PDF files once they go for sale online. To be honest, I believe that is the reason why they rerelased 3.5.
Another observation as to why 3.5 came out first may be that, simply put, 3.5 was already in a format that their printers can use. Remember that 2E is in a 20+ year old format, and may need to be redone for modern printers, much like 1E was (to an extent). That's why I have been reasonably patient with them, but my patience is starting to leave as I see no move from WotC that hints we will see this edition in a reprint format.
WotC, it would simply be nice to hear an answer one way or another! BTW, I still have that wad of cash ready to buy these books again!
WotC could EASILY offer print copies of any of their back catalogue if they wanted to. Many printing companies are converting their operations over to print-on-demand (POD) which has allowed them survive by making many small sales instead of a few big ones. I have no doubt that a big publisher like WotC/Hasbro could work out a deal with a printing company to process their POD orders. WotC could handle the internet front end and then transmit all the orders direct to the printer who would then ship directly to the consumer. Fantasy Flight Games does this and they are expanding their POD line which makes me think they're doing something right.
This avoids the need to gamble on big print runs that might not sell. That's what killed TSR in the 90's, warehouses full of product they couldn't sell.
Brick and mortar gaming stores aren't left out in the cold because WotC could offer a discount to retailers who would be shipped cases of books directly from the printer. FFG does this and it works quite well from what I've heard. Retailers only order exactly what they think they can sell and are not forced into dealing with distributers who want them to accept large bundles of items to get top selling products.
The only people who lose in this model are the distributing companies.
So here's the deal. They're ignoring us here. I have sent emails & tweets about this. No response. I think we need to flood the D&D twitter until they give us at least the respect of an answer.
I did get a response on Twitter about the 2E books. Their response was "I don't have any news on that. If we plan a 2E reprint, you'll see it on the website and here!"
Don't know how to read into that.
I understand the desire for 3.5 & 1E reprints, but based on my own discussions with others at the FGLS, Gen Con, and here, the desire for 2E is just as strong. 1 & 2E were the longest-running editions; many of those my age cut their teeth on 2E, and still play it. I have guys that were in diapers during 2Es heyday that want to try it. So I wouldn't say that there is less want of these core rulebook reprints than the other editions, per se... There may be other reasons. I would have to guess that they have the same issue of format to current print standards that they had with 1E, as one example, and this may be why they're taking this long. I'm hoping that they announce the 2E core books in the next few weeks, as the 3.5 reprints excitement starts to wear down a little.
I would also argue that having the 2E core books reprinted will also help with PDF sales of the 2E stuff.
Maybe they fear the 2ed awesomeness will steal market for DDN.
And i'm joking,yes,but there could be a half truth in that. I'm ready to bet about 2ed fans being a good chunk of the DDN playtesters.
1ed is too old,3.x still has followers with pathfinder but 2ed fans, if they could have new manuals could just buy them and forget about the new edition.
Playtest for 5e will take 2 years. So maybe the first year they print 1e and 3.5 and the second year they print 2e.
Maybe 2e is a very popular edition that can have it's own year of publication.
Are there any other fans of Tony DiTerlizzi who would get behind commissioning him to do the 2e covers? I loved his art in Planescape and the monster manuals. He's a big reason I'm so attached to the edition. As a young artist he was truly inspirational to me.
I guess some people might think it's too cartoonish but it's so much more expressive than all the dour fantasy art that adorns most D&D products. It's like a breath of fresh air. It gets my brain juices flowing.
I'm under the impresson that, if there's enough of a demand (and it looks like there is), WotC will give us these reprints. That being said, I would love for them to be as true to the original 1989 stylings as possible, similar to the 3.5 reprints. Pretty up the original Easley cover with the fighter charging on the horse, the incredible dragon/wizard, and the various monsters (using the Monsterous Manual instead of the Monsterous Compendium). I don't have much space left on my D&D shelves, but there is an open space for these reprints, along with the 1e & 3.5 reprints when I can afford them.
As a side note, whenever I have been asked what the essence of what D&D is to me, I always tell people to refer to page 7 of the 2e Player's Handbook (the post-dragon encounter painting done by Elmore).
I picked up my 1st edition reprints this week and I have to say that if this is the new WOTC, all I have to say is WELCOME BACK!. This was a wonderful suprise, real treasures that I look forward to passing on to my kids when they get a bit older. Its a great tribute to the fans and to Gygax himself, so just wanted to say BIG THANKS from me.
To me 2nd edition is as much part of the history of D&D as 1st edition and I would pick those up with the feverish excitment I had when I got the 1st edition books, so don't even hesitate Wizards, get those bad boys the printers.
I personally don't see a reason for the 3.5 reprints, my books have held up very nicely which speaks of WOTC's attention to quality, but I can understand that there is probobly more than sufficient fans to fill these orders as well.
I have to say that I'm really impressed with Wizards right now. Between their new adopted philosophy of testing and community feedback on NEXT, the reprints of these classics books and just their general attitude of embracing all the generations of D&D players and not just the latest has really brought me back as a fan. While your fans Wizards have their squabbles and differences of opinion, we are all D&D fans of one generation or another and embracing this and giving back to the fans that have made this franchise great is a sure fire way to unit this disturbingly fragment community. Your on a roll! Keep it up!
The 2E reprints are already on the gaming best-sellers list on Amazon. They are outselling the 1E reprints, and on pace with the 3.5 reprints. They are crushing the 4E sales on Amazon, and it's only 1 day into the presale! So much for "no interest in 2e by the players."
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