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11 months ago ::
Jul 21, 2012 - 12:40PM
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Anyone else like the cover art (or lack thereof) ?
I do and was just wondering about D&D Next. Does the community like the action shot covers of 1E, 2E, and 4E or do you prefer the 3E look (core books)?
Picked up my 1E reprints yesterday and also really like the more upscale looking covers.
Just curious . . . .
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11 months ago ::
Jul 22, 2012 - 12:21AM
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Anyone else like the cover art (or lack thereof) ?
The new covers are growing on me every time I look at them. The revised covers seemed to be "busier" looking than the original Third Edition ones and this simpler look seems to be better than either of the others.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 22, 2012 - 8:02AM
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Jan 30, 2012
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Strange. I tried to quote the cover pictures from the previous page but it didn't work.
Anyways, I like the look much more than an action shot of characters and/or monsters. I will be picking up a set of these for sure.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 28, 2012 - 10:03PM
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If Savage Species were reprinted updated for 3.5....would be different the list of monster classes? I was published before 3.5 Ed.
And we could be the idea of racial classes from Complete Psionic.
I kind of doubt that such a detailed work as revising Savage Species is going to be done by WotC staff. They seem to have their hands full. To truly do it justice they would have to hire out for it. I remember being so disappointed by Savage Species both for the frequent errors in it and that fact that it was out dated before it hit the retail stores. One of the very few books I felt disappointed I spent money on.
Savage Species was a book that hit shelves when 3.5 was almost complete, it's pretty much a 3.25 book. Very little work is necessary to update the material in the book to 3.5 anyway, why would they waste the effort to "fully update" the book? Especially when it's considered niche as far as its value to most gaming groups, and questionable in balance. You either end up with grossly overpowered characters, or ones that are incredibly weak with hitpoints and defenses so far behind the curve of their ECL compared to a human or even an elf of the same ECL. Sometimes a host of special abilities doesn't make up for the cost of not being able to take a hit.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 29, 2012 - 8:21AM
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Savage Species was a book that hit shelves when 3.5 was almost complete, it's pretty much a 3.25 book. Very little work is necessary to update the material in the book to 3.5 anyway, why would they waste the effort to "fully update" the book? Especially when it's considered niche as far as its value to most gaming groups, and questionable in balance. You either end up with grossly overpowered characters, or ones that are incredibly weak with hitpoints and defenses so far behind the curve of their ECL compared to a human or even an elf of the same ECL. Sometimes a host of special abilities doesn't make up for the cost of not being able to take a hit.
You answered your own question. This book needs a lot of work because the entire thing is questionable in balance. Any attempt to bring it up to an "errata and updated" state would be a lot of work.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 8:32AM
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$55 dollars? wow they really have no shame
Originally these books were going to have fancy gilded page edges but this was changed. It could very well be that the $55 price is out-of-date and will be lower.
right, well they are 50 bucks before tax dude
www.wizards.com/DnD/Product.aspx?x=dnd/p...
thats a complete and total rip-off, frilly edges or not
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11 months ago ::
Jul 30, 2012 - 7:50PM
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right, well they are 50 bucks before tax dude
www.wizards.com/DnD/Product.aspx?x=dnd/p...
thats a complete and total rip-off, frilly edges or not
It does sound high priced but D&D books have always been expensive. Compare the price to the previous premium version of the same book: Special Edition Player's Handbook. This one is $25 cheaper.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 04, 2012 - 11:06PM
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$55 dollars? wow they
right, well they are 50 bucks before tax dude
www.wizards.com/DnD/Product.aspx?x=dnd/p...
thats a complete and total rip-off, frilly edges or not
Actually it's probably because:
1) Increase in printing costs since those books were released.
2) Decrease in volume of books to be printed. These will not be printed (or sold) in the numbers that they originally were - nor at the level of the last few 4e books to come out. Volume in printing = lower cost per unit.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 06, 2012 - 10:54PM
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right, well they are 50 bucks before tax dude
www.wizards.com/DnD/Product.aspx?x=dnd/p...
thats a complete and total rip-off, frilly edges or not
It does sound high priced but D&D books have always been expensive. Compare the price to the previous premium version of the same book: Special Edition Player's Handbook. This one is $25 cheaper.
But you're comparing to something that was a special edition- something that was meant to be expensive. A fairer comparison would be either to the 1st edition reprint. Now, it's probably a decent guess that the originals have skyrocketed in price since 1978. I don't see any new copies on Amazon because they likely don't exist. Used copies tend to have writing on the inside, or were library copies. 1st is also a niche market- anyone who's buying them knows that they have a piece of history in their hands, and as such, are probably willing to break the bank on copies that look nice. Wizards can afford to sell them at obnoxious prices because people are willing to pay obnoxious prices.
3.5 ended in 2008. Now, new copies on Amazon start at $60, but that's because it's an out-of-print book. However, anyone who still wants to play the game probably still has their 3.5 books- at least the core- in serviceable condition. It's not hard to find them in good condition. 3.5 also snagged a lot of people- there's a reason Pathfinder didn't completely flop. With this release, Wizards could bring back a large number of fans who jumped ship at 4th. However, I can think of maybe two people I know who could just drop $150 for the core set, and they aren't into D&D.
I was actually considering buying the PHB to have a backup in case mine falls apart on me (a much greater possibility that any of my other 3.5 books, given how much it was used,) but after seeing $50 a book... Sorry, WotC. Maybe next time.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 06, 2012 - 11:11PM
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I liked how 2E books were black. I liked how 3.x books looked like tomes. I liked how 4E books were uniform in design (more or less).
I think WotC should blend these 3 styles and make something new and cool.
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