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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 1:17PM
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Jun 24, 2012
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Hello. Joined mainly to ask this one question. It's about the essentials stuff. Mostly I've been combining things fine. LOVE the Skald. Those lost class features from the base Bard are SO worth it. One of my top classes to play. Combine with a pixie, and, well, the world trembled from the might of my super buffed behemoth I ride. Not a behemoth creature, but a fighter warforged or what have you. Anyway....
I have a question however. With some of the new class alternatives (I call them subclasses, since they're always listed under the main class) they have a character advancement grid like in Handbook 1. Thats all fine and dandy, except several of them don't say things like "Daily/encounter/at-will power" and instead say an outright power name. Now I know I can houserule things, technically, to do whatever I want. I can allow my character acess to level 30 attacks at level 1 if I wanted to, but I'd prefer to stick to the rules as much as possible. A personal quibble. Only afterward will I houserule something (or ask another DM).
My question is, while picking this character, such as the Knight for example, am I forced to use this single spell/attack/etc, or is it just that that's the only new option given in the book, and I can still decide on another? And if I can (I hope I can. Customisation and all), how do I determine what's a class feature and an attack with first level abilities? Like both the Rogue and fighter have "Power Strike", and it's a free action,a ctivateed when I attack, so I assume that's a class feature, but what of the others?
Any replies wil be apreciated. This is osmething that's been nagging at my group for a while now, especially me, because I like the idea of thesethings, hypothetically, but if I dont' have any choice in how my guy grows....
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 1:30PM
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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Classes gain Powers and Features stated in their write-up.
If you play a Knight, then you cannot select Fighter At-will, Encounter or Daily Attack Powers no.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 1:32PM
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Jun 24, 2012
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Well that... just sucks. Yeah, I think that will likely be a houseruled thing, right there. Seriously, that's dumb. Because the Skald, for example, did NOT have that, and I was mixing and matching all over the place. This was MY Skald. But I can't mkae him MY Knight? Boo. Hello, houserules.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 5:40PM
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The whole point for the Essentials martial classes is that they don't really do anything but basic-attack, basic-attack, basic-attack. They're 'classic' that way (aka 'fighters are boring').
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 6:07PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 24, 2012
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Which is one reason I much prefer 4e over 3e. The FEW things I prefered from 3e, I just do the same for what I liked from 2e. Hourserules! I still have to get around to switching the Samurai to 4e, though... Think Katanas should be versaile, superior (Samurai class would automatically be able to weild them, obviously) and brutal 1?
Also Rainbow forever.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 6:10PM
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Katanas are longswords, full stop.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 6:18PM
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Jun 24, 2012
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Eh, I would have to say no. At least not a "true" katana, as in made with the special (If i recall in 3e, magic was used in their construction) quirks of theirs. Besides, it's a katana. It should somehow stand out if I'm bothering to do Samurai.
Besides, absed purely on weight, wouldn't it be considered a light blade, and thus not a longsword?
Hm, maybe not. Originally it was a masterwork bastard, not a long. Eh. I'll figure it out when I get around to it.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 6:40PM
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Sep 29, 2009
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Shouldn't a katana be something versitle since it can switch between 1 hand and 2 hand?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 6:43PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 24, 2012
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Personalyl I would say yes. As well as Brutal 1 because, well, katana. The edge wassimply sharper than western swords. Same cutting power, but different ways. Longsword, or in this case bastard sword, cut because of the greater weight. A katana was lighter but had a sharper edge. Same cut, different reasons.
I personally think a Daikatana (I know that's not the correct term. I forget the right one.) should be akin to the bastard, while a normal should be akin to a long, but with brutal 1.
Also I'm not going to get in trouble for constantly saying bastard, am I?
Checking up, a bastard sword is already versatile AND superior, so yeah, I'd say just add Brutal 1 to it. Same die (1d10).
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12 months ago ::
Jun 24, 2012 - 6:58PM
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Dec 18, 2010
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Isnt there a write up in the essentials that players can choose powers from other books - if appropriate. Now if the power has a class and a level, it can potentially be choosen from another book - like fighter utiltity L2 - but many essentails powers do not have levels attached so they can't be (many at will level at L1 for example) Though your choices won't be unlimited with the material in this book, when you add other products and information from the insider D&D
your options increase.
heroes of the forgotten kingdoms p79Of course i stand to be corrected, but that line may be viewed as giving essential chars options rather than straight jacketing them.
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