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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 7:01PM #11
NickTyrong
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Yeah, but isn't that an online only option? As in a subscription? If so, no sub here.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 7:30PM #12
Salla
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Jun 24, 2012 -- 6:40PM, Sea-Envy wrote:

Shouldn't a katana be something versitle since it can switch between 1 hand and 2 hand?




Yes, that would be 'a longsword'.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 7:33PM #13
NickTyrong
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Except it was literally classified as a bastard sword before. I'm talking about making it its own blade. I mean hell, they made the broad sword seperate from the long, so why not?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 8:34PM #14
Salla
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Jun 24, 2012 -- 7:33PM, NickTyrong wrote:

Except it was literally classified as a bastard sword before. I'm talking about making it its own blade. I mean hell, they made the broad sword seperate from the long, so why not?




'Before' doesn't matter.  What previous editions did or didn't do has absolutely zero bearing on the way things should be done now.

I'd make it a longsword because I don't think Samurai should be its own class, and they certainly don't deserve a special 'better than every other superior weapon because anime katana fanboy did you see that episode of Schmukitori where Herpimaru Derpitaku cut a tank in half' sword.  I could see Samurai being a background.  Maybe a theme.  But it's not a class; it was just a social standing.  You could be a Samurai and be a fighter, ranger, or warlord easy.  You could be an arcane samurai with a Swordmage, a divine samurai with a Paladin, a primal one with a Barbarian or Warden.  There's nothing inherently mechanical about it, it's just choosing to roleplay a noble social status and a code of honor ... which ANY class can do.

The one thing those classes all have in common?  Longsword proficiency.  Of course, you can call your greatsword, or your broadsword, or your fullblade a katana too, if you feel like it; it's all fluff.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 8:36PM #15
WibbleNZ
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If you want an in-rules answer, reflavour an existing weapon (longsword, bastard sword, kopesh).

If you want to play "Katanas are just better" (thanks tvtropes.org Laughing) thats fine, but the rules Q&A forum doesn't concern itself with house rules.

FWIW, the Kensei paragon path looks pretty Samurai-ish to me.  
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 8:50PM #16
NickTyrong
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And yet Knight is a class? Knights and Samurai are literally the same in every which way, just an eastern and western side. Hell, the "knightest" class was already the Paladin.

And no, not a fanboy.

Also thae katana was not "better". It was just sharper. I'm pretty sure I said that they made the same cut. I doubt adding brutal 1 would make the katana better than any sword in the game. There are a few already like that, like say the kopesh. Just a superior weapon. And by that I meant class, as in bastard sword. NOT "it's a better weapon". If Brutal 1 is deemed to much, there's always high crit. See that far less often than a 1 on a d10 roll.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 8:53PM #17
Salla
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So there you go.  Make a Knight or Paladin, call it a Samurai, and you're done.  The joy of reflavoring.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 8:55PM #18
NickTyrong
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Hm, Kensei, looking it over, DOES kind of ook about good... hm... maybe....

Oh, wait, 3e DID have a Knight class, as WELL as a Samurai class.

Hello Oriental Adventures! I forgot about you! Forget what I said about the katana, I already have a base for it. Nevermind. Now, to determing if I should do Samurai or be hapy with Kensai....

And Kensai was also available before, as a prestige. So we already have precadent for all of it being used. That pretty much answers that.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2012 - 4:40AM #19
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Aww, and here I was hoping someone would start up the old "Samurai was more than a caste, the bushido code is a way of life!" arguments so I could show off my knowledge of the warrior cultures of Europe and the New World which make the Samurai look like the French.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2012 - 7:26AM #20
NickTyrong
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Not from me. Knights and Samurai were basically, in reality, the same thing. Neither generally had an actual money, just lands, barely making it by. Both treated the serfs like, well, serfs. Both had a sucide pact that was rarely ever practiced in reality. I mean both chivalry and bushido were "a way of life", but basically treated as such the same way most modern religions are. The moderates of most faiths don't "live the lifestyle" like they "should" be. Heck, you line the bushido of the samurai and chivalry of knights up side by side and they're basically the same things.

Also what was wrong with the French? The French kicked ass.
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