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1 year ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 1:22PM #1
Sartalo
Date Joined: Jan 21, 2008
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Hi All,

I'm sure this must have been discussed already, but I'm curious if there has been any word on keeping the 4e character generator and other software available?  I for one enjoy the 4e rules and I find the database, monster builder and character builder programs extra handy.  It would be a shame if they disappeared.
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1 year ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 4:12PM #2
Seeker95
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Date Joined: Oct 24, 2001
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No word.

We had word. Then it was de-worded. And now we have no word.

I am hopfeful. But not confident.
Here are the PHB essentia, in my opinion:
  • Three Basic Rules (p 11)
  • Power Types and Usage (p 54)
  • Skills (p178-179)
  • Feats (p 192)
  • Rest and Recovery (p 263)
  • All of Chapter 9 [Combat] (p 264-295)

A player needs to read the sections for building his or her character -- race, class, powers, feats, equipment, etc. But those are PC-specific. The above list is for everyone, regardless of the race or class or build or concept they are playing.
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1 year ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 4:35PM #3
WhisperMagellan
Date Joined: Jun 8, 2010
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Could argue how much support there was for 4e in the first place. Numerous mistakes made (like Essentials mucking up the established game-play by retroing into the existing character classes; books that were 1/2 4e, half Essentials; classes getting late or slow support; errata nerfing published material; and more). Some things seem like they weren't even play-tested, or just overlooked. Others were meticulously covered and supported extremely well.
I expect the best we can hope for is a better Open License Agreement once 5th Ed comes out.
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1 year ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 6:01PM #4
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With the spectre of D&D Next on the horizon, I anticipate that the virtual tools will go the new direction at some point. With that belief, I have begun trying to wean my group off the CB, which is difficult, to say the least. The volume of Feats and powers make it a daunting task.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 10:24PM #5
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Well, hopefully they leave the errata up.
I'm still using the old not-on-line CB, which predates a lot of the classes, all of essentials, and has some goofy work-arounds from dirty code.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 6:52AM #6
Sartalo
Date Joined: Jan 21, 2008
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I can't see why they would remove them from the website, but if they do plan on it, I would really like to see them make the software available for download so I can put it on my computer at home.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 8:14AM #7
SwampDog
Date Joined: Jan 2, 2011
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If they keep the 4e tools online, I will continue to give them my DDI money.    Otherwise, I will not.    Hopefully, enough others feel the same way that they'll be encouraged to keep those tools available.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 9:50AM #8
Undrhil
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The amount of support from WotC for 3.x when 4e came out could be an indicator of the amount of support we can expect for 4e when D&D Next comes out.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 10:26AM #9
Hippolyte
Date Joined: May 10, 2009
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The best I hope for is that some very savvy person will create a mod for the old character builder which would include all the more recent stuff. (I will prevent myself from getting into trouble here by ironically stating that that wish includes a more open license for such third party efforts.)
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 1:19PM #10
Complete4th
Date Joined: Jun 1, 2011
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I'm not holding my breath for continued support, and I've already compiled much of classic 4e in pdf form for my group and myself.
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