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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 12:32PM
#301
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It's a (barely) obfuscated rant against "shifting" and other board-manipulation powers.
No ranting, why must everyone be so all or nothing?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 12:44PM
#302
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When you have ranty hate in your heart you begin to see it in everyone else. 
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 1:29PM
#303
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Hmm, I never have those stacks of sheets, since I mostly use modules that other people have written.
I do :-). When I'm running, I tend to have every monster on a separate piece of paper so I can keep them all in front of me and track HP sepearately. I also use index cards to track initiative orders. And, of course, I like to keep my dice bundled up until I'm going to need them so they don't end up under the radiator.
Beleive me, when my PCs are about to face a major fight, they know regardless of the map.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 1:31PM
#304
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I have a wet erase chessex battle mat that I leave out and store my minis in a tackle box. Then I tell the story and if combat happens, I then draw the map and pull the minis out. This way the players don't know there's a battle until they actually enter one...
I work the same way. My players never know if what they're getting is going to be skill challenge, roleplay-heavy or combat-heavy until I tell them to roll initiative.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 2:39PM
#305
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1) Good for you guys, some of us don't like every encounter to bring out the chess board.
I never said otherwise? I was just pointing out some "problems" people have with 4e aren't system problems.
2) Nothing, but sometimes people in a real life encounter are not a bird.
Never said otherwise. When I'm doing a battle involving tactics, havign a higher view of the board is a major benefit.
3) I'll raise your slide 2, and raise you 3.
You should probably avoid chess and checkers then. Those are horrible for baord moving.
Seriously though, I'm have no diea what point your making here. I'm not "sliding" anyone as a Warlord(fluff-wise anyways), I'm yelling at them to get a move on and get over there while pointing in the spot I talk about, and they do so.
Why are you looking for an argument, I never said grids/minis etc are bad, just I don't always dig them?
I'm not, and I never said you said they were bad, I was looking for clarification on some points and pointing out others aren't system problems.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 3:35PM
#306
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3) I'll raise your slide 2, and raise you 3.
You should probably avoid chess and checkers then. Those are horrible for baord moving.
But you can totally play chess without a board in TotM - why does everyone always call it a board game?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 6:39PM
#307
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1) Good for you guys, some of us don't like every encounter to bring out the chess board.
I never said otherwise? I was just pointing out some "problems" people have with 4e aren't system problems.
Sure, it wont effect some people and that means it isn't a hard coded systemic problem. Without polls etc we wont know if a system influences things to trend a cerain way or not. The thing is I can run detailed tactical encounters without a grid for any encounter of a size I'd care to run in the first place. Tactical is not a systemic proble with TotM stuff. Benefits gained and lost in a battlemap or without a battlemap are not really reliant on the system so much as the players. They may influence things but we really don;t know how much it influences the gaming populace as a whole. It looks like the 5e folks think a light game has more positive influences for role playing to a larger segment of the gaming populace than a detailed tactical game would which is why they are defaulting on this end. Only time will tell if they are right.
I personally prefer theater of the mind unless I have the time/energy to set up a battlemap properly. If I am going to hastily sketch a room, I'd rather wing it. If I have the time to build a set with legos and tiles and some terrain set pieces I prefer the battlemap.
Note not trying to be argumentative, just pointing out that it not being a systemic problem goes both ways.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 7:01PM
#308
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I haven't gamed in 15 years and bought the Pathfinder Rulebook & PF Advanced Players Guide to get caught up with what is new. My new group wants to play D&D 4th edition and I was wondering if it is simular to Pathfinder with feats, classes, spells, skills being simular?
Is D&D 4th edition about to get revamped anytime soon? I see D&D Next. Is this the upcoming new edition of the rules? How long until 4th edition gets replaced?
As a player, what D&D 4th edition books are recommended for a decent variety of play options? Players Handbook and what other player rulebooks are widely used/recommended?
Thanks,
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 7:06PM
#309
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Pathfinder and 4e are totally different in many respects. And we have no idea when 5e or next as they are calling it is coming out, we seem to be in early playtest state.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 21, 2012 - 10:42PM
#310
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Grid vs no grid I like to compare to playing blindfold chess.
Sure, you can do it, but nobody who cares about the game does it as anything other than a joke or a training exercise.
I just don't get this comment at all. I have played both ways extensively, and I find TotM superior by a large margin. My group agrees. A whole lot of people on this board and thousands more elsewhere agree. That's a fairly petty appraisal of our preference--regarding it as a joke or something people do who don't care about the game.
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