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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 8:26PM #21
Sharckey
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Solved the problem today by just calling Wizards, according to Steve in customer service. The garrote is a specialized weapon which can only be used during certain uses and powers, and therefore even if used in a improvised manner you still could not throw it through the use of all the powers and feats and such.


Though he did want me to point out that if the GM allows it, then the Gm allows it and Wizards back up the GM's call.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 8:55PM #22
baldhermit
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Because Steve knows what he is talking about?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 9:22PM #23
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Yeah, I'm Steve, sorry, we have this thing at work where any time someone asks us something absurd that could simply be looked up in the rules, we lie through our teeth. I just wanted to come here and appologise since I'm off the clock now.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 11:14PM #24
zelink551
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I'm actually really pumped for Steve, since he has a job despite not knowing what he's talking about!
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 11:26PM #25
Sharckey
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Jun 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, baldhermit wrote:

Because Steve knows what he is talking about?


Well when you call up the people to get a rules check from their own game, I would consider it just as good as someone from there posting on the board?

Like he said if ya wanna thow rope around and have it do as much as a sword and thats what your GM allows then so be it

I am just telling you what the person on the other end of the phone said

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 11:27PM #26
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Jun 14, 2012 -- 5:56PM, Undrhil wrote:

Also, you won't be doing massive damage.  Improvised ranged weapons have their own section in the RC.  If you are throwing an improvised weapon, it's an improvised ranged weapon, I believe.

An improvised ranged weapon is range 5/10, 1d4 damage.




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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 11:28PM #27
zelink551
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Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:26PM, Sharckey wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, baldhermit wrote:

Because Steve knows what he is talking about?


Well when you call up the people to get a rules check from their own game, I would consider it just as good as someone from there posting on the board?

Like he said if ya wanna thow rope around and have it do as much as a sword and thats what your GM allows then so be it

I am just telling you what the person on the other end of the phone said




Steve is from an outsourced company, and so is terribly unreliable.

The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/28317541/Barfcheeze_help?pg=1

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 11:30PM #28
Sharckey
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Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:28PM, zelink551 wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:26PM, Sharckey wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, baldhermit wrote:

Because Steve knows what he is talking about?


Well when you call up the people to get a rules check from their own game, I would consider it just as good as someone from there posting on the board?

Like he said if ya wanna thow rope around and have it do as much as a sword and thats what your GM allows then so be it

I am just telling you what the person on the other end of the phone said




Steve is from an outsourced company, and so is terribly unreliable.


And you know this how? And if WoTC put this "outsourceed" third party in charge of making rules decision, then they are speaking on behalf of WoTC

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 11:31PM #29
zelink551
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Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:30PM, Sharckey wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:28PM, zelink551 wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:26PM, Sharckey wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, baldhermit wrote:

Because Steve knows what he is talking about?


Well when you call up the people to get a rules check from their own game, I would consider it just as good as someone from there posting on the board?

Like he said if ya wanna thow rope around and have it do as much as a sword and thats what your GM allows then so be it

I am just telling you what the person on the other end of the phone said




Steve is from an outsourced company, and so is terribly unreliable.


And you know this how? And if WoTC put this "outsourceed" third party in charge of making rules decision, then they are speaking on behalf of WoTC




Its common knowledge, and common knowledge that CustServ is so often wrong that they simply arent to be trusted. Countless people have asked them the same question and theyve answered multiple different ways

The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/28317541/Barfcheeze_help?pg=1

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 14, 2012 - 11:32PM #30
Sharckey
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Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:31PM, zelink551 wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:30PM, Sharckey wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:28PM, zelink551 wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 11:26PM, Sharckey wrote:

Jun 14, 2012 -- 8:55PM, baldhermit wrote:

Because Steve knows what he is talking about?


Well when you call up the people to get a rules check from their own game, I would consider it just as good as someone from there posting on the board?

Like he said if ya wanna thow rope around and have it do as much as a sword and thats what your GM allows then so be it

I am just telling you what the person on the other end of the phone said




Steve is from an outsourced company, and so is terribly unreliable.


And you know this how? And if WoTC put this "outsourceed" third party in charge of making rules decision, then they are speaking on behalf of WoTC




Its common knowledge, and common knowledge that CustServ is so often wrong that they simply arent to be trusted. Countless people have asked them the same question and theyve answered multiple different ways


So what makes it different when the customer service wrotes a post on here then?

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