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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:21AM #1
Fallen_Star_02
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Hi folks. I've created a logic puzzle I hope to use in an upcoming adventure. Could you help me by trying to solve it, and tell me if it is too difficult? Here it is:

Six adventurers are seated around a circular table at a tavern, dividing the treasure from thier recent exploits. They were, going clockwise, a cavelier, a knight, a hunter, a mage, a thief, and a warpriest. 

As they were splitting the loot, they found they had 12 gems, which were four rubies, four sapphires, and four yellow topaz. They decided to take two gems apiece, and each took a different combination of colors.

 Neither the knight nor the hunter took a ruby.


The thief shared a color with each of its neighbors.


The mage took at least one yellow topaz.


The hero who took two sapphires sat facing the one who took two rubies.


the knight and cavelier did not share a gem color.


Who took which gems?     

 



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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:40AM #2
Tequilasaurus
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Cavelier - Topaz Topaz
Knight - Saphire Saphire
Hunter - Topaz Saphire
Mage - Topaz Ruby
Thief - Ruby Ruby
Warpriest - Ruby Saphire


If that's correct, it looks like a good puzzle. Have you tested to make sure there aren't alternate solutions?

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:41AM #3
CinnamonKing
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EDIT: I found out how to insert spoiler It was the same solution as the one already posted though.

You should rephrase "the hero" to "the one hero"! 
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:42AM #4
jorgeo
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Maybe it's because I just woke up, but there are two parts that I think are odd

1) There's only one color mentioned, yellow. I read that ruby can be pink to red, so if you assume it is just red, whoever took two rubies does not have two different colors.

2) That leaves sapphires to be any color "non-red and non-yellow". Assume from wikipedia that the possible sapphire colors are : blue, yellow, pink, purple, orange or green. So you could have a yellow saphire, which complicates things.

I guess this info could be acquired through a skill check, but a failed (or succesful) result could mean trouble. It can also be irrelevant as the posters before me solved it.


Good stuff. I might plan a similar logic puzzle for my players tonight.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:47AM #5
Skewwed
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cav = 1 ruby and 1 top
knight=2 saph
hunt=2 saph
mage=2 top
thief=1 top and 1 ruby
priest=2 ruby?



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..didnt realize someone solved it, and i wasnt even close.. good stuff though..
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:49AM #6
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Jun 2, 2012 -- 11:47AM, Skewwed wrote:

cav = 1 ruby and 1 top
knight=2 saph
hunt=2 saph
mage=2 top
thief=1 top and 1 ruby
priest=2 ruby?




That's why you should probably rephrase. I solved it this way first as well. But the puzzle was brilliant. I am usually good at this kind of stuff, but I thought this was a real nut

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:51AM #7
Skewwed
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..nah its cool, I do not mind being wrong, if everyone posts that they solved it in 10 minutes the first time what fun is there in that..
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:54AM #8
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Jun 2, 2012 -- 11:51AM, Skewwed wrote:

..nah its cool, I do not mind being wrong, if everyone posts that they solved it in 10 minutes the first time what fun is there in that..




Sorry, I was adressing OP. I said he should have rephrased "The hero" to "The one hero". I was not telling you to rephrase your answer. Lol, I'm not THAT douchy

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:56AM #9
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..lol, good times... good times Tongue Out
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 12:17PM #10
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The answer posted by Tequilasaurus is correct.

Jun 2, 2012 -- 11:42AM, jorgeo wrote:

Maybe it's because I just woke up, but there are two parts that I think are odd

1) There's only one color mentioned, yellow. I read that ruby can be pink to red, so if you assume it is just red, whoever took two rubies does not have two different colors.

2) That leaves sapphires to be any color "non-red and non-yellow". Assume from wikipedia that the possible sapphire colors are : blue, yellow, pink, purple, orange or green. So you could have a yellow saphire, which complicates things.

I guess this info could be acquired through a skill check, but a failed (or succesful) result could mean trouble. It can also be irrelevant as the posters before me solved it.




Sorry, yes I meant all four sapphires are the same shade of blue, and all four rubies are red. Maybe I should put gem type instead of color to clear up confusion?

And yes I tested it for alternate solutions.  If you take "The thief shared a color with each of its neighbors." to mean the three adventurers have a single gem type in common between them, then there is only one correct solution. This is also true after you figure out the thief took to rubies, so he could only share that gem type with both his neighors.

I was wondering if that clue is too ambiguous.

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