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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 3:33PM
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See the problem we have is... the fighter, currently from we know, only has 1 advantage over every other cass:
Weapon damage
Bigger hit die
So if you plan on doing something other dealing and taking damage, you are probably better suited as an equal Strength cleric.
This issue is:
You can't actively (nor do you want to) take damage
You can only deal damage via a weapon attack unless your DM says otherwise.
So the only way to currrently be a fightery fighter is to spam basic attacks.
Now we don't know what higher level brings but in it's current form, being a fightery fighter... is repetetive and thus boring.
Orzel, Halfelven son of Zel, Mystic Ranger, Bane to Dragons, Death to Undeath, Killer of Abyssals, King of the Wilds.
Constitution Based Class for Next!
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 3:35PM
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Now we don't know what higher level brings but in it's current form, being a fightery fighter... is repetetive and thus boring.
But it's traditional, and that's all that matters.
/sarcasm
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 4:34PM
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I have to agree, I don't really see a reason why the magic user should have 30 different spells and the fighter has 'attack'. Sure, you can improvise and trip, the wizard can fly, blow up 10 enemies at once, etc. It just isn't the same thing at all.
That is not dead which may eternal lie
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 6:26PM
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Now we don't know what higher level brings but in it's current form, being a fightery fighter... is repetetive and thus boring.
But it's traditional, and that's all that matters.
/sarcasm
Oh wait ! It's a lot nicer to simply spit on over 25 years of where the game originated from. So much nicer. Hey, let's even scream that Pendragon, Dragon Warriors, the Dark Eye, Advanced Fighting Fantasy suck because Warriors in it are boring. There is no other RPG system worthy to play other than 4E. Really ? We really need to go this route ?
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 6:27PM
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Now we don't know what higher level brings but in it's current form, being a fightery fighter... is repetetive and thus boring.
But it's traditional, and that's all that matters.
/sarcasm
Oh wait ! It's a lot nicer to simply spit on over 25 years of where the game originated from. So much nicer. Hey, let's even scream that Pendragon, Dragon Warriors, the Dark Eye, Advanced Fighting Fantasy suck because Warriors in it are boring. There is no other RPG system worthy to play other than 4E. Really ? We really need to go this route ?
Yes, 4e is totally the only way to make warriors interesting. There is no way you can do so without it also making else.
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 6:38PM
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While I should have been working, I thought about a 5e-y way of doing called shots that could also benefit a fighter.
Called Shots: If a character has advantage he can attempt to make a called shot on a foe. The player should describe what he is attempting to do to the DM. The DM should decide the correct save to resist the called shot. The attacker should then roll his 2 d20s. As usual, the higher die is compared to the AC to see if the attack hit. Th lower of the two dice is used as the DC for the called shot that the defender must save against.
Fighters use the higher of the two dice for the attack and for the contest DC.
Could definitely be worded better, but tada, called shots anyone can try and might not suck at, but Fighters are drastically better at.
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 6:49PM
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Now we don't know what higher level brings but in it's current form, being a fightery fighter... is repetetive and thus boring.
But it's traditional, and that's all that matters.
/sarcasm
Oh wait ! It's a lot nicer to simply spit on over 25 years of where the game originated from. So much nicer. Hey, let's even scream that Pendragon, Dragon Warriors, the Dark Eye, Advanced Fighting Fantasy suck because Warriors in it are boring. There is no other RPG system worthy to play other than 4E. Really ? We really need to go this route ?
Yes, because Grapple, Trip, Bull Rush, Sunder, Overrun, Disarm completely spits on the game, and Tome of Battle and 4e never existed. Neither does Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying, 7th Sea, 5 Rings, etc.
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 6:50PM
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Now we don't know what higher level brings but in it's current form, being a fightery fighter... is repetetive and thus boring.
But it's traditional, and that's all that matters.
/sarcasm
Oh wait ! It's a lot nicer to simply spit on over 25 years of where the game originated from. So much nicer. Hey, let's even scream that Pendragon, Dragon Warriors, the Dark Eye, Advanced Fighting Fantasy suck because Warriors in it are boring. There is no other RPG system worthy to play other than 4E. Really ? We really need to go this route ?
If the game did it wrong for 20 years, then yes, spit on it. And if warriors are boring in those games, then spit on them as well.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 6:51PM
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Oh wait ! It's a lot nicer to simply spit on over 25 years of where the game originated from. So much nicer. Hey, let's even scream that Pendragon, Dragon Warriors, the Dark Eye, Advanced Fighting Fantasy suck because Warriors in it are boring. There is no other RPG system worthy to play other than 4E. Really ? We really need to go this route ?
When tradition starts stomping on my cherries just because I want to play a Fighter that I don't find boring and useless, then yes, tradition is going down.
You're already getting what you want out of the Fighter. I don't want your traditions standing in the way of me getting what I want.
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13 months ago ::
May 31, 2012 - 10:41PM
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This fighter is as much fun to play as watching paint dry. Though I'm starting to feel that watching paint dry may be more fun.
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