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13 months ago ::
May 28, 2012 - 5:55PM
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Here are some of the easier classes to hybrid IME from building a lot of hybrids.
Generally these have 2 primary stats and lots of support: cleric (great armor no matter what + weapon or implement), paladin (potential for great AC with one feat), ranger (has best base at will so you won't miss the others, ranged or melee as well). I have heard warlock falls into this, but I have never tried it.
These miss little from hybrid and don't really need a hybrid talent feat for that class: swordmage (loses nothing in hybrid really, gets a weapliment, needs int), wizard (needs int, gets most of its strength through powers), cleric (see above), invoker (like wizard, but with wisdom),
Shaman: can dump wisdom if you need to, but needs hybrid talent feat for full effectiveness. Besides that loses little from hybrid.
Barbarians: need strength, but have a really good set of powers as long as you can work out AC somehow.
Ones I have gotten to work cleric + ranger, monk, barbarian, avenger, warden, paladin, wizard, invoker, bard, or shaman. Barbarian + swordmage (str/int). Paladin + monk (dex/cha) and + Fighter (str/wis)
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13 months ago ::
May 28, 2012 - 5:58PM
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uhmmmm. GO, you missed the class that is the easiest to Hybrid: Warlords.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 1:09AM
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1 primary you don't need, 2 strong and 1 weak secondary, and work OK without secondaries at all. Yep, Warlords.
Executioner's strong too, mainly because it gets its striker feature on all MBAs - including ones from classes which can also put THEIR striker feature on them, particularly Warlocks and Blackguards. And Avengers, I guess, though that's not a build I've actually seen.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 5:19AM
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I'm enjoying my Seeker|Exe/rogue. Really one of the few ways to make a Seeker playable. Just take all the RBAs. Tack on Deft Blade and Crimson Hunter and at lvl 13 I'm +21 v reflex doing something like 3d8+18 with a status effect every turn. My 1st round is usually 5d8+3d6+3d10+18.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 5:47AM
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A lot of these strong hybrid classes also have standout powers that just serve to seal the deal:
ASSASSIN: U6 Ghost of the Rooftops is mega-Athletics for non--Str-based classes.
CLERIC: AW1 Sonlinnor's Hammer is a Wisdom-based MBA. Free feat slots are always made of win.
RANGER: U2 Invigorating Stride is a move-action Second Wind. All Rangers are Dwarves at heart.
WARLOCK: U10 Ethereal Sidestep. You can't build a truly unhittable PC without it.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 5:57AM
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I'm enjoying my Seeker|Exe/rogue. Really one of the few ways to make a Seeker playable. Just take all the RBAs.
I'll second that that's a very vicious RBA machine. I'd like a sexier PP for it, but I have toyed with this party:
Int-Wis Animist Shaman
Str-Cha Warlord with Direct the Strike
Tiefling Illusionist Mage
Githzerai Berserker
Executioner|Seeker
Mage locked down Team Monster and painted focus-fire target for Berserker with maximized defenses. Berserker waded in and further locked down TM, painting FFT for remainder of party. Both leaders exploited the hybrid's huge RBA to destroy FFT. It's very hard for a DM to fade the focus-fire heat when 90% of the DPR is coming from 10 squares out ...
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 6:16AM
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Gotta throw in the Rogue|Warlock/Assassin to the pot, nothing says "screw you, DM" like permahidden. Especially if you make it a Pixie, then tremorsense doesn't even work, nor does having medium creatures try to bump into you.
Especially since you give up no defenses nor damage in order to do it.
D&D Next = D&D: Quantum Edition
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 6:45AM
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uhmmmm. GO, you missed the class that is the easiest to Hybrid: Warlords.
That's because I don't think I have ever tried to hybrid a warlord or even seen a hybrid one in play. Those are all examples of ones I have actually made.
Except the warlock, which I have only messed around with a little inthe CB and seen others bring to the table several times.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 8:31AM
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Personally I'm looking forward to playing Mellored's Death's Gatekeeper (Cleric|Ardent) which is a gimmick, but also amazing.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 8:51AM
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uhmmmm. GO, you missed the class that is the easiest to Hybrid: Warlords.
That's because I don't think I have ever tried to hybrid a warlord or even seen a hybrid one in play. Those are all examples of ones I have actually made.
Except the warlock, which I have only messed around with a little inthe CB and seen others bring to the table several times.
I played a very enjoyable Ranger|Warlord but only got him to lvl 4 before the group disbanded...
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